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Skinless

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To Para or not?
« on: February 12, 2011, 12:50:35 AM »
Is it worth it to chop down the barrel( and add prince's para-sight)? how much accuracy is sacrificed and is the mobility increase substantial?
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 02:04:53 AM »
definately worth it. im just finishing up my second para project. i have a yugo with prince50's sight that i have stocked in a T6 with a USA steel mag and i am also putting the finishing touches on a norinco left in its wood stock. i decided to go with a red dot sight on this one and am waiting to finish up the muzzle brake. im hoping in a week or so to have both 100% done. the mobility of each has greatly increased, especially the yugo. its approx 8 inches shorter. i have no doubt the function will be as it should be. as for accuracy, in the past with different styles of rifles, i have never gotten worse accuracy when shortening the barrel. some stayed the same and a few seemed to improve, but i never lost anything. i will post up pics of the pair when they are done in a week or so. i probably wont have a decisive range report til the weather breaks... but i will test for proper function this next week.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 10:09:53 AM »
Do it.., cutting the barrel and a Prince sight is GREAT.  Zero loss of accuracy and a better handling rifle (My opinion). The hardest part for me was re-crowning, I ended up renting a setup to do it.  Used a blueing stick to blue the new cut and crown.  Take your time and you won't be sorry.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 12:53:53 PM »
The new sight works like a champ.  I have had mine out a couple times.  I have a scope on the rifle but I have been using the sight also just to check it and it hasn't moved at all.  Very good product for the money.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 06:46:56 PM »
I also chopped a Yugo and I'm NOW happy with it, but it took some futzing to get it to cycle right and I was pretty mad at myself for a while there.  I had another front sight set up but now have Prince50's.  P50's is definately the way to go.  I'm satisfied with the accuracy (2" off hand @ 50 yds, 3-4" @ 100).  This isn't my tack-driver rifle, but it's my 2nd favorite to shoot.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 01:08:30 AM »
Sweet, pretty much sounds like a consensus so far.....ill have to get around to ordering the sight and getting my tools together. Thank you all for the info.


Anyone have a reason this is a bad idea....or have a pic with the para sight on a full length barrel (dont want the bayonet lug but also dont wanna ruin the FSB)
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 09:02:31 AM »
Sweet, pretty much sounds like a consensus so far.....ill have to get around to ordering the sight and getting my tools together. Thank you all for the info.


Anyone have a reason this is a bad idea....or have a pic with the para sight on a full length barrel (dont want the bayonet lug but also dont wanna ruin the FSB)

 :scratch:  Not sure I understand.., are you asking is someone has the Prince50 sight on a full length barrel?  I haven't heard of anyone doing that (kinda defeats the purpose.)  Maybe someone who sportorized awhile back and wants the front sight now?  When I did my para barrel cut I just left the original FS on as I shortened. 

NOW.., it's early and I haven't had my first cup of coffee so your question may make more sense to someone who has been up longer and had their caff., fix.   8)
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 02:10:38 PM »
lol yea its confusing....just wondering because i dont want the bayo lug but i dont wanna cut it off the front sight block
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He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 02:37:11 PM »
you can cut it off and get the prince50 sight. easy to do with common garage tools. the first one i did, i took my time and triple checked everything and still did it in under an hour... the barrel cutting, facing and recrowning. on my second one, i think it took about 20 minutes. the new sight slips right on and has 2 set screws... thats a 2 minute job. if you like to tinker with stuff, this is a fun project to do. it is permanent though... once you cut the barrel, its cut. so make sure you are fine with that.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 11:50:11 PM »
I really like the way mine turned out. Made a great little carbine even better.
And it's a simple project to do. Mine's a yugo cut to about 17.5 inchs Had 1 fte at frist
then installed a murray gas valve and it works perfect now

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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 01:07:07 PM »
You will need to cut the barrel behind the front sight base to get the correct diameter for Prince50's sight.  That is unless he has a variation with the smaller diameter.
I'm also on board with the happy modifiers.  Function of my Norinco is still flawless, and accuracy is a little better.  When you handle your new shortened rifle, you will go "WOW"!!  Size does matter, and shorter is handier.  jd
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 12:19:10 AM »
Ok, that works ill just go all out hehe. Did some ballistics research and you lose about 50 FPS when you go down to a 16.5" (unnoticeable) and gain accuracy because a shorter barrel is stiffer. Thank you all again for your input....very surprised there are no leave it alone people voicing their opinion lol
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Or what menace meet on the road.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 12:59:44 AM »
Thanks guys!

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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2011, 02:30:58 AM »
If you have a unmatching gun I say definitely yes, but if you just want to cut any old Yugo matching or not, do what you want. I say either is fine.
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Re: To Para or not?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 05:30:44 PM »
I would do it. I just did it to my Yugo and at first I was worried about messing it up but it turned out to be pretty easy . I called the gunsmith and they wanted 150 to cut mine down . I decided to just jump right in and it only took about 2 hours. I re crowned the new muzzle also . Pictures in the Yugo sks area. If you go right behind the front sight you shouldnt have any problems with the gas system feeding or ejecting rounds. I didnt any way. Only tools I used were a file, some sand paper, and a little drill bit I had. The bit is kind of a strange bit. I used it to ream the new muzzle. It was very short and flared out a bit from the point.
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