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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2015, 02:18:28 PM »
I would be careful about firing with bolts from other rifles.
But, since it doesn't eject cases with the bolts you tried the extractor and extractor spring is probably NOT the cause.

Going over what we know so far;
The bolt and extractor will pull out a fired case manually, but not when fired.
The OP-ROD is there and moves about 3/4 inch when pushed on.
The gas port has a path at least big enough to pass a pipe cleaner.

Assuming ammo with proper pressure (not weak ammo) the gas should build up behind the bullet as it goes down the barrel and vent through the gas port into the gas cylinder pushing on the gas piston which pushes the Op-Rod back (kinda hard) kicking the bolt carrier back against the recoil spring (installed squiggly end forward) dragging the bolt with it.  The cartridge hits the ejector tab in the receiver side rail slinging the case out. 

When the rifle fires and the bolt doesn't slam back ejecting the fired case, can you pull back the bolt carrier and eject the fired case without it feeling STUCK in the chamber?

Take the gas tube off and see if you can (be careful here :) ) block the chamber with your finger and blow into the muzzle and air escapes through the gas port?

The Gas Piston moves freely in the gas tube for about an inch?

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« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 02:33:00 PM by Rocketvapor »
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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2015, 03:10:12 PM »
Number one - put all the original parts of the rifle sback where they belong.  Check serial numbers if needed to be sure that you have the right bolt in the right gun.  If you do not - that could be a safety issue.  Gas system parts are largely interchangeable, bolts are not. 

Are you using new ammo or reloads?  If reloads they may have insufficient power to cycle your rifle.  Try the same ammo in another rifle.  Do you get the same result?  Try different ammo in your suspect rifle.  Do you get the same result?  Is it an ammunition problem.

As I understand the symptom, after you fire the bolt stays closed and spent case chambered. If this is the case, when you draw the bolt back by hand does the cartridge case extract normally? It should if the extractor is good.  You should just be able to grab the bolt and pull it back while the extractor flips the case out of the rifle.  If you need to close the action again because the extractor is no longer holding the rim of the case you have an extractor or extractor spring problem.   If you need to hammer the bolt open because it is still locked - you have another problem. 

If the above doesn't help - disassemble your suspect rifle's gas system side by side with another fully functional SKS.  You should have exactly the same number of parts.  Did anything go missing?
That would do it.

If nothing is missing - be sure that all pistons and springs are replaced facing the same direction.  This may solve your problem.  Test fire both rifles.  Do they both work? Does either one work? If neither one works, you are putting it together wrong.

Good luck - keep us posted!
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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2015, 09:59:59 PM »
Load the mag with one round. Chamber round, fire. If the bolt locks back, the problem is not in the gas system, the problem in on the bolt.

Ejecting problems and cycling problems are two totally different things.
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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2015, 11:23:20 PM »
direction of gas piston? large end goes toward the front. simple error I've seen before.

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2015, 11:29:14 PM »
...yikes, that's like putting the bullets in the mag the wrong direction.  :shock:
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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2015, 11:44:22 AM »
Hello  MORDAAL
I didn't see anyone ask, Is the spent cartridge stuck/hard to extract?
Can you pull the Carrier and Bolt back with ease?

Check the Chamber to ensure there's no corrosion, or build up.
Good luck.
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The spent cartridge is easy to extract. Already checked for corrosion in chamber. Will be watching video for trouble shooting gas tube as was suggested. I believe the problem most likely gas escaping from port.

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2015, 12:03:22 PM »
Hello  MORDAAL
I didn't see anyone ask, Is the spent cartridge stuck/hard to extract?
Can you pull the Carrier and Bolt back with ease?

Check the Chamber to ensure there's no corrosion, or build up.
Good luck.
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The spent cartridge is easy to extract. Already checked for corrosion in chamber. Will be watching video for trouble shooting gas tube as was suggested. I believe the problem most likely gas escaping from port.
OK, I watched the video and have already verified the piston moves freely in gas tube. also checked that nothing was in backwards including bullet. :lol:
I am going to try removing the gas tube again and try blowing air through muzzle to make sure it is not cloggged. I am considering putting a gasket on the gas port to see if that will improve the gas pressure coming out of the port

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2015, 11:32:21 PM »
direction of gas piston? large end goes toward the front. simple error I've seen before.

Please tell me how in the heck this is possible?????

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2015, 08:31:24 AM »
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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2015, 11:46:13 AM »
figured it out - http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=136718.0
Yes I figured it out. The gas tube or the port was allowing gas to escape thus preventing the cartridge to auto eject. The fix was simple, get some RTV Blue silicon gasket maker. Apply a thin line to the end of the gas tube that covers the gas port. Reassemble and give it at least 24hrs to set up. It worked for me and now my SKS auto cycles with no problem. :) I have tried the paper clip method in the past but with no success.

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2021, 07:39:04 AM »
I hope you have found an answer to your problem. I have a problem myself with the Chinesse SKS I just bought recently. The empty casing gets caught when the bolt slams back forward. The SKS fires no problem and the piston seems to work fine as well. I thought about the extractor being the culprit and I would like to know what are your thoughts on that.
Thanks, Pat

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2021, 11:14:32 AM »
I hope you have found an answer to your problem. I have a problem myself with the Chinesse SKS I just bought recently. The empty casing gets caught when the bolt slams back forward. The SKS fires no problem and the piston seems to work fine as well. I thought about the extractor being the culprit and I would like to know what are your thoughts on that.
Thanks, Pat
Start searching for your answer here. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?board=72.0

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Re: Chinese SKS will not eject cartridge
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2021, 04:20:19 PM »
Yowza.   I just realized this post was from six years ago.

Pat, go to the introduction page and introduce yourself, then try posting a thread of your own describing your problem and what you've done so far.  There's never a shortage of good advice on this board. 
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