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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2021, 10:48:18 PM »
That is pretty bad ass!  8)
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2021, 11:25:54 AM »
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2021, 01:02:45 PM »
Sgammo has some 12ga.  00 buck in stock:
https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/shotgun-ammunition/12-gauge-ammo

Thanks JJ. I have a good supply of target/birdshot. I would like to have more buckshot and this seems to be priced around where the magnum loads used to be. I just don’t see prices coming down with the current tyrannical administration in place. Not sure whether to pass or not. I do know there’s not much time to decide.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2021, 05:18:34 PM »
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I do know there’s not much time to decide.

True that.  I was debating on getting a Turkish M4 clone before lack of inventory decided for me.  :banghead:

https://www.classicfirearms.com/panzer-arms-m4-semi-automatic-tactical-12-ga-shotgun-3-5rd-inertia-driven-black/

I should have jumped on it...
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2021, 12:42:24 PM »
https://www.classicfirearms.com/radikal-sax2-12-gauge-semi-automatic-shotgun-sax2/?trk_msg=1HNIMN09A0JKN01HQ8DU5B20A4&trk_contact=4ND8DFAMRNK5CUB5L97C04UN4K&trk_sid=O21RMCV96G9IU4OQDOAI05C3IK&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.classicfirearms.com%2fradikal-sax2-12-gauge-semi-automatic-shotgun-sax2%2f&utm_campaign=20210209EpicRangeTime&utm_content=Tertiary

https://www.classicfirearms.com/panzer-arms-m4-semi-automatic-tactical-12-ga-shotgun-3-5rd-inertia-driven-black/

This looks exactly like the Panzer Benelli M4 clone I was looking at.  Does anyone have experience with or know about Radikal Arms? Not Radical, which is another maker of AR 15s, among other things.  Reckon this is that same gun with a different label?  Are all Turkish guns roughly equal?  I know Panzer has been in business 50+ years, I don't know much about Radikal, and there isn't much online about them.  I want one, but don't like unknowns. 
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2021, 04:04:28 PM »
I got to grope a Turkish Benelli clone at the LGS yesterday.  This one was branded as TriStar.  They only had the one, and it was on layaway by a customer, so they couldn't sell it to me.  The man behind the counter said they were a popular selling shotgun.  I asked about the difference in quality among the various Turkish shotgun manufacturers, and he said he really couldn't tell the difference between them. 

They were selling the TriStar M4 clones for $749 at the LGS.  The Panzer M4 I was looking at initially was going for $549 by Classic, but they sold out.  The new stock they got in was Radikal brand, and selling for $599.  I looked at a bunch of Radikal products online, and they looked no better/worse than the other Turkish brands, so I ended up ordering one from Classic. It will probably be a while before it gets here, but I'm excited about it.  I've been wanting a SA shotgun for awhile now.  I wanted a Mossberg 930, but will have to settle for a Benelli forgery from Turkey.

I'm optimistic, but we'll see...



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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2021, 11:01:53 PM »
I got to grope a Turkish Benelli clone at the LGS yesterday.  This one was branded as TriStar.  They only had the one, and it was on layaway by a customer, so they couldn't sell it to me.  The man behind the counter said they were a popular selling shotgun.  I asked about the difference in quality among the various Turkish shotgun manufacturers, and he said he really couldn't tell the difference between them. 

They were selling the TriStar M4 clones for $749 at the LGS.  The Panzer M4 I was looking at initially was going for $549 by Classic, but they sold out.  The new stock they got in was Radikal brand, and selling for $599.  I looked at a bunch of Radikal products online, and they looked no better/worse than the other Turkish brands, so I ended up ordering one from Classic. It will probably be a while before it gets here, but I'm excited about it.  I've been wanting a SA shotgun for awhile now.  I wanted a Mossberg 930, but will have to settle for a Benelli forgery from Turkey.

I'm optimistic, but we'll see...

I hope it turns out to be a good purchase. I decided on the AK style shotgun because it’s a proven design and reliable. I believe yours will be similar.

Still haven’t put a round thru mine. Life events. Maybe this weekend.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2021, 08:06:24 AM »
This just looks like a good way to beat yourself up! I love 12g and it's versatility and rainbow of different things to put through your barrel. If you ask me too shoot some high brass through that, I'll pass! I know when to say too much. (Except pistols oddly?) Lol

Good lookin piece though. 



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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2021, 04:51:41 PM »
Hey Phil,  topgunammo.com has RIO 00 buck and Sterling slugs in stock:
https://www.topgunammo.com/12-GA_c_28.html

$29/25rd is not too bad for 00 buck these days. . .

I should have the Turknelli I bought here soon, and I grabbed some of the the above for the break-in period and then some.  Since you have the adjustable gas, you may not have to break it in as much.   25rds of high brass buck is what most of the Turkish semis recommend for initial break in.

I noticed when patterning a Mossberg 500 that if you sight in with slugs, the middle of the pattern with shot shells will be the same point of aim.  At least it was with that gun.  Be sure to use the appropriate choke.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2021, 09:46:59 PM »
Hey Phil,  topgunammo.com has RIO 00 buck and Sterling slugs in stock:
https://www.topgunammo.com/12-GA_c_28.html

$29/25rd is not too bad for 00 buck these days. . .

I should have the Turknelli I bought here soon, and I grabbed some of the the above for the break-in period and then some.  Since you have the adjustable gas, you may not have to break it in as much.   25rds of high brass buck is what most of the Turkish semis recommend for initial break in.

I noticed when patterning a Mossberg 500 that if you sight in with slugs, the middle of the pattern with shot shells will be the same point of aim.  At least it was with that gun.  Be sure to use the appropriate choke.

Thanks Mike, anticipation for the new weapon to arrive is always exciting. Finding time to get out and fire the beast is a whole other story lol. If there any left I’m gonna order some of the buckshot and slugs to fortify what little I already have.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2021, 12:13:40 AM »
Shipping from topgunammo is a deal breaker. :(
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2021, 12:47:23 PM »
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Shipping from topgunammo is a deal breaker.

Bummer.  My order ended up being $150 for 110/rd.  I think shipping was $15, which is $3 more than SGAmmo. 100 rounds of 00buck from SG would have been $200+, so shipping was worth it to me.

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Finding time to get out and fire the beast is a whole other story lol.

True that.  Going to the range is a rare occasion these days, unfortunately.  When I joined this site, I was just married and had a range in the back yard.  Now I've got two kids and live in town.  No regrets on starting a family, but my gun to-do list is getting pretty long.  When my boys get a little older, I can get them involved.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2021, 12:25:45 PM »
I picked up the Radikal Arms SAX 2 Turknelli from the FFL yesterday.  The finish is pretty nice, but the windage adjustment screw on the rear sight is missing.  I haven't field stripped it for initial cleaning yet, but hopefully that's all that's missing.  One guy on YouTube was doing an "unboxing" video and his was missing the barrel. :roll:

They must have just started churning these out, as the serial number is a low and from 2021.  Seems like these Turkish Shotguns are the luck of the draw, some are jam 'o matics and some run like a top.  Hopefully I got a good one.  I paid for the Lifetime Warranty from Classic, but from what I hear their customer service is pretty much non-existent.  It has a rubberized pistol grip, and I hope it's not the type of rubber that turns into a gooey mess after a few years.

I'm waiting on an ammo drop from UPS later today, and hopefully I'll get to the range to break it in someday soon. I plan to start a thread on it once I have something to write about.
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2021, 12:43:55 PM »
That’s awesome. Haven’t been out to shoot mine yet either. I did get 250 00Buck 2 3/4 for $300 from sgammo and 200 slug rounds for $300 from LAX ammo. Kinda spendy but I feel a little better having a decent supply. Like hodgie, I’m done buying any type of ammo. The shipping from topgunammo was $143 on top of the $600 for the 00 buck and slugs. :roll:
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Re: Not so frivolous
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2021, 04:29:41 PM »
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I did get 250 00Buck 2 3/4 for $300 from sgammo and 200 slug rounds for $300 from LAX ammo.
Sounds like you're in business!   8)

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The shipping from topgunammo was $143 on top of the $600 for the 00 buck and slugs.
YIKES!  I can see why you passed on it!  Topgun beat SGAmmo by about $30 for the same order for me, but Winchester MG 00Buck is probably a better product than RIO. 

I think I'm done buying ammo for awhile.  I've got enough new stock and back order to get in some range time without having to get into the stash.  I've got 9mm on backorder from OpticsPlanet and x39 on backorder from Sportman's Guide, IF it ever ships.

Now, if we can find time to do some shooting, we'll be in good shape.
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