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Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« on: July 27, 2023, 05:49:55 PM »
I ordered a Panzer Arms M4 because it is reportedly the closest to the Benelli out there, supposedly able to actually swap parts!

I already have a magazine extender coming for it, although I've read it takes a little finesse to get it to work.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/panzer-arms-m4-tactical-12-gauge-shotgun-18-5-semi-auto-black-pam4tssb.html
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2023, 08:25:57 PM »
I'm guessing it's not the same as the "Turknelli"?
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2023, 09:20:00 AM »
I'm guessing it's not the same as the "Turknelli"?
yes the same, there are a few companies in this category
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2023, 12:09:58 PM »
Check out my post in this subject on the Radikal SAX 2:

http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=151388.0

They are hit and miss as far as quality control.  It's likely from the same factory, it just gets branded Charles Daly, Panzer, SDS and so on.

Be sure to clean the grease from the ARGO system, it's supposed to be clean and dry in the gas/piston area, but some lube where the rods connect with the bolt carrier.  Also check the bolt carrier for peening where the rods hit it after breaking it in with some full power loads.  The main issues I've seen are from people either running them straight out of the box and gumming up the grease in the ARGO system, or the factory failing to heat treat the bolt carrier, resulting in peening that eventually widens it out enough to lock up in the receiver.

The best route to add mag capacity is to replace the mag tube entirely, rather than use the two-round extension.  I found this thread to be very helpful:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Benelli-M4-Clones--Any-Comparisons-or-Reviews/1-520113/?page=35

Every company has come out with some lemons, but I got a good one.  I've got at least 300 shells through mine with 0 malfunctions.  Mine cycles 3" magnums and WalMart bulk skeet shot equally well.

Be advised, changing mag capacity gets you into 922r territory.  It's fairly easy with these from what I understand, with a new mag and follower, you will just need one or two more parts.  That thread on ar15.com is your friend when trying to figure out what works and what doesn't.  Daves metal works has good tubes from all accounts, but that's moot if you already ordered the mag extension.

I hope you get a good one!
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2023, 02:38:02 PM »
Thanks for the info. I will get to researching!
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2023, 06:26:50 PM »
DO NOT DO IT!!!!! THEY SUCK!

I had high hopes that it would be a nice shotgun, we sold about 20 of them during and after Covid. Those that got sold to customers who actually shoot their guns came back in short order. The barrel where the pistons hit it was not the proper hardness and they would peen so badly That the shotgun would fail.

Also the plate that carries the bolt was not hardened either. We replaced on and it happened again, so we now no longer sell it. Radikal was the company IIRC.

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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2023, 07:18:15 PM »
DO NOT DO IT!!!!! THEY SUCK!

I had high hopes that it would be a nice shotgun, we sold about 20 of them during and after Covid. Those that got sold to customers who actually shoot their guns came back in short order. The barrel where the pistons hit it was not the proper hardness and they would peen so badly That the shotgun would fail.

Also the plate that carries the bolt was not hardened either. We replaced on and it happened again, so we now no longer sell it. Radikal was the company IIRC.

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Too late! I have had several FTEs, hoping this stops after the break in period.
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2023, 08:39:17 PM »
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Re: Anyone try out a Benelli M4 clone yet?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2023, 08:14:36 AM »
Tfbtv did a review on one it was dumpster fire. https://youtu.be/HuY4CWm8XwA
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