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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2006, 10:12:19 PM »
thanx for the info.....my receiver is a D
mine has phos. sights, non ported.
but the rest...... my trigger guard has the elctropen. matching # on the bottom, but on the inside top, right in front of the trigger there is a completely different #. http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/270savageshooter/sks/100_1793.jpg (fuzzy pic ,you can just barely see the #.)

then theres the mag. electropen matching #'s on the side, but the bottom...http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/270savageshooter/sks/100_1797.jpg if you look at the yellow there is a 3 set of #'s on the trigger assem. very hard to see. i really suprised it even showed up.

the bolt...http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/270savageshooter/sks/100_1804.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/270savageshooter/sks/100_1805.jpg

the reciever pin?? http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/270savageshooter/sks/100_1802.jpg
all the #'s that are supposed to be there (common factory locations) seem to all be matching. but its the other #'s. the rifle is mint. looks like it was unissued. or has it been refurbed at the factory?
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Is mine a '78 or was it just refurbished in '78?
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2006, 11:56:35 PM »
I was wondering if my SKS was actually built in '78, or was it just rearsenaled in '78 and renumbered as a '78 SKS?

My serial no. is O 609xxx, and it has all matching numbers.  It's also got another number 224xx that's on ever single part that has the 609xxx serial number on except the stock.  It's also on some parts like the firing pin and the rear sight as well that the 609xxx number is not on.  There is also the initials "TK" on the bottom of the handguard gas tube, and also on the bottom of the rear sight.

The 224xx numbers look to have been put on by hand and not with a die set.  There is also a 224xx number on the base of the barrell where it meets the receiver.  At that location, the 224xx number looks to have been stamped with dies as the numbers look good.  

The barrell has a slightly different color bluing to it than the receiver and the rest of the rifle.  The bluing looks better on the barrell and the inside is very shiny with no visible pits.  I'll go out on a limb and conclude that this is a replacement barrell. :lol:   Anyway, just what is that 224xx number?

The rifle also has phosphorus night sites front and rear, and a non-ported grenade launcher with the non-tapered ring mount.

Anyway, is it possible that the rifle was at one time a M59 and it was rebuilt in 1978 and renumbered?

Would a M59 that was converted into a M59/66 have kept it's original serial number?

Just curious.

edit: My stock has the 609xxx serial number on it.  It also has two arsenal repairs on it.  One on the outside of the stock, and one on the inside of the stock.  These repairs had to have been made after 1978 unless the brand new guns came with these repairs on them. :shock:   Anyway, I think my SKS was probably made in '78 due to this.  I'm still curious as to how we are sure that these guns are in fact made in the year that they are numbered.  I'm also still curious about those other numbers.  Could they be import numbers?  Would the importer even take the bolt apart and mark the firing pin as well?  If they went to all that trouble, they might as well strip them of cosmoline for us and charge more! :D

another edit:  I guess they could have sanded the original number off of the stock and restamped it in '78 so maybe it could be a M59?  Anyway, I don't know and it really doesn't matter one way or the other to me! :D

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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2006, 03:21:09 PM »
After examining my rifle's 609xxx serial number some more, I have to wonder how easy it would be for the arsenal to have renumbered these rifles.  On the bottom of my gas tube, the stampings look to be fairly deep due to the curvature of the metal.  I don't see how this number could be removed and changed without removing too much metal.  I guess a new gas tube could have been stamped, but in my case, my gas tube shows a little more wear on the bluing than the barrell.  In some areas the bluing looks like it matches the barrel, but where it connects to the gas cylinder it appears to match the reciever. :shock:

Anyway, this just gives me doubts on the likelyhood of my rifle having been renumbered.  Which leads me to believe my rifle was made around 1978. 8)

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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2006, 10:58:23 AM »
I have a Z-7136XX all matching...Noticed this number doesn't match with the year of the prefix, so thought I would post it....

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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2006, 10:34:21 PM »
I have a M59 that is a C494xx, which is outside the range of serial numbers listed for C. All numbers appear to match on the rifle.

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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2006, 06:51:00 PM »
I have a C 7261xx that's in beautiful shape, obviously an '89. I didn't realize it was made in such a low-production year. Thanks for the info! You have just supplied me with ample justification to pick up a more "common" and "seasoned" SKS to play with at the range  :wink:

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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2006, 03:13:38 AM »
Great information and research.  It'll help me out tomorrow; I'm hopefully making a purchase.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2006, 12:02:53 AM »
I have a D that happens to be just outside your range as well.  813XX.  reciever, trigger, bolt, and bolt carrier all match.  Gas tube is different, I guess it's from a C model - 353XX.  Didn't check the reciever cover since I don't feel like pulling the tech sight off, but I have a feeling it'll be 813XX.

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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2006, 05:12:24 PM »
I have two SKS Yugo M-59 with the numbers C293xx and C407xx. Are these 1967 manufacture or is that only for the /66 models?
Thanks for the work compiling all this info.
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2006, 09:38:26 PM »
I have insufficent data to accurately date M59 rifles.  The basis of the M59/66 date scheme is log book data.  As far as I know none of the M59 rifles have log books.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2006, 01:09:04 PM »
Mine is a "J". It has quite a few engravings in it. Is it possible that mine was used in any wars? There was alot of dirt inside of it, but maybe they are all like that.
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2006, 09:36:04 AM »
I have an "N" that is outside your range.  I'll email you the info later on tonight.

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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2006, 10:14:26 AM »
Recently a very good friend and fellow SKS collector found several M59/66 w/o a serial prefix letter, one of which he gave me for my collection -pic below. Unfortunately they did not have log books, but it could be assumed that they were from the first production.., maybe 1966(?).  (It has no night sights, ported G.L...additional pics available on request)

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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2006, 10:24:09 AM »
SKSnut e-mailed me some pictures of some similar rifles recently.  The 98K serial number range would put the rifle in the middle of the E prefix rifles (1968).  Why a few pop up from time to time without a prefix I do not know.  The features you describe would fit the characteristics of an E prefix rifle.
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« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2006, 10:49:35 AM »
Quote from: withergyld
SKSnut e-mailed me some pictures of some similar rifles recently.  The 98K serial number range would put the rifle in the middle of the E prefix rifles (1968).  Why a few pop up from time to time without a prefix I do not know.  The features you describe would fit the characteristics of an E prefix rifle.

THANKS!   I compared it to my E series and it is identical