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Darts2116

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Hi all. I have an affinity for old smith and Wesson revolvers. I came upon a 1977 airweight that I could not pass up. Only after I bought did I realize it was not plus p rated. Right now I have it loaded with 158 standard velocity lead semi-wad cutters. I’ve been seeing how solid copper projectiles have some truly incredible results. I was thinking if I loaded 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets to standard pressure. Has anyone tried this?  Any thought if it would be more effective than what I’m using now?
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Re: Loading standard velocity 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2023, 02:24:04 PM »
I loaded 146g Sierra jacked hp in my Ruger Black Hawk back in the 60's-70's. Don't remember the load though. Kicked like a mule. I've had a beer and a nap since then. I doubt they were +p back then. BUT, we aren't playing on the same field. Your mileage may differ ...
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Re: Loading standard velocity 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2023, 11:02:07 PM »
I think you're doing the right thing for the air weight with the coppers. To recall a snubby story. I knew a NYC Detective that got a call on a robbery in progress just down the street from where he was. Back in those days, the issue gun was a Colt Detective snubby with a 158g LRN cartridge. Dick told me that as he entered the store and ordered the crook to freeze, he spun around at the check out counter (gun in hand) and Dick put all 6 rounds into center of mass. The LRN bullets did little aside from scare the hell out of the crook and he was released not long after Dick saw him in court. I think you have nothing to lose but gain in an all copper higher vel loading. I carry Underwoods in my 380's and at some point will load lehighs in the 40 & 45 as well. Keep an eye on the primers. I wouldnt go past a very slight flattening over unfired condition.
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Re: Loading standard velocity 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2023, 11:04:16 AM »
I've got a 1976 Detective Special.  I carried it with Golden Sabre +p before I got the Shield 9.  Neat pistol, the quality is nice.

I got it off a retired KY State Trooper.  It was his off duty "belly gun."
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Re: Loading standard velocity 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2023, 07:13:58 PM »
My view is this baring the new LCP Max my thinking is this. With a snubby it going to be close up and personal possibly even have to shoot with the barrel in contact with the other person. I’d rather have 5 shots of 158 grain 38 special. Then 6-8 rounds of .380 acp that there could be cycling issues especially if there is something in contract with the slide. The Leigh web page has plus p loading s but no standard velocity loads. The bullet data in Leigh’s web page says to not loaded it lower than 750fps. I’m still learning how to reload may save this project for when I have a little more time under my belt.
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Re: Loading standard velocity 357 diameter, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Bullets
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2023, 12:05:21 PM »
While cleaning the house for the holidays I found my 2023 Hodgen loading manual. Lo and behold there were standard pressure loads in it with a bunch of different powder.
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