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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2024, 08:21:33 PM »

That wound up more than they said, now I'm seeing cat 4 predictions before landfall.  So yeah I hope everyone is prepped and ready.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2024, 10:42:00 PM »
Some Broadcastify nets are on in the west gulf coast counties,
Manatee, Sarasota,Lee.

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Radar:  https://weather.com/weather/radar/interactive/l/c14bc50b6393d6600a86d913e70091ebe298437f16df1d138b5323fa671cfb32

1.1 million power outage customers in the State.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2024, 04:17:41 PM »
The weather is pretty windy in Kentucky right now, I'm sure the coast is catching hell.  Stay safe y'all!
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2024, 06:04:32 PM »
Any word on LG? He was living in the Asheville NC area.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2024, 09:14:39 PM »
I hope he checks in, I think he was right in the path of the worst of it though so at best it will be a while.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2024, 09:38:42 PM »
I'm hearing stories its much worse than is being reported, especially in NC.  FEMA is dropping the ball, even worse, some stories that it's confiscating donated supplies to reallocate to distribute.  No way to verify, but I have seen some posts of pack trains of food and water and survival gear going in the more rural and now isolated areas.  Saw a post of  private helicopter doing air rescues for 2 days now, and has yet to see any govt air assets share the airspace.

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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2024, 07:03:00 AM »
I've also heard a couple stories regarding rescue and relief.
I heard they're using pack mules to get into some areas due to lack of usable roads.
Also heard about a private helicopter pilot that was threatened with arrest because some bureaucrat got his toes stepped on. Seems like the chopper driver and his son were rescuing people without this dude's consent.
Also, there were trucks of water gathered in our area that were going to a specific point. FEMA stopped them and made them unload at another location. Told the drivers they couldn't run their own operation cause it all had to go thru FEMA.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2024, 07:25:05 AM »
I saw that report last night, after landing with a rescued older lady, a local fire chief ordered him out for "interfering with his operation". But they had no air assets deployed, and threatened him with arrest for even going back for his son, he had to leave the older man behind as the FAA closed the airspace.   I could understand if they had multiple air rescues going on, but he was it, you would think he would just work with him as a volunteer, but he apparently didn't like the idea of an out of state individual operating there.  Instead he goes back home nd wonders if he should have done more while people plead for help.

And everything has to be bureaucracized because FEMA is so efficient as we see.

That kind of stuff gets shots fired if pushed far enough, pretty soon FEMA jackets are going to be as welcome as blue helmets in rural America.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2024, 07:29:09 AM »
I see videos of military choppers dropping supplies.
Rescued people need to be accounted for.
I guess they don't want private, non-profits, and news choppers flying in the hard hit areas.
Volunteers are needed of course, if nothing else but to rescue volunteers.
At least you won't have to worry anyone sneaking in to steal big screen TVs.
Local official seem to be hampering more than helping.
Isn't the state guard and police on scene yet?

Just where were the tanker trucks heading on washed out roads.
If you could get a truck in you could drive people out. 
Bringing one person per flight doesn't seem like a lot of help.

dispatched 1,000 troops to reinforce the North Carolina National Guard with relief efforts. The Air National Guard said Wednesday that so far it had delivered over 100,000 pounds of food, water and other supplies for Helene victims.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/03/national-guard-north-carolina-flood-recovery-efforts/75494169007/

https://www.wral.com/story/helene-recovery-cargo-planes-to-drop-supplies-by-parachute-to-rural-nc-farms/21654491/
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2024, 08:02:21 AM »
If its working there like it does here, FEMA and DHS takes over in disasters and all local govt assets are subject to their orders and strategy, and they definitely have a 'greater good' philosophy in allocating rescue assets.  They have annual training drills where all local FD and PDS are supposed to coordinate for simulated disasters.   I do understand the need for coordination and exclusions so you don't get some yahoo with a grill, cooler and water jugs loaded up in his 4x4 get hung up and stranded trying to cross a washout road etc.   

But federalizing disasters is not really that effective after seeing how they have handled flooding and fires just in this state the last couple years, despite all coordinating the response becomes slow waiting for go aheads from a central command.  Being small communities most of us know several VFD, sheriff deputies and dispatchers etc because they are neighbors. Thankfully state and especially local organized response is relatively effective, but as soon as FEMA shows up and takes over, I have been complained to response is often reduced, anything not directly controlled by them is halted, even things like drone flights by emergency services is stopped much less civilian activity, conflicts come about with resources  even with the redcross trying to help fire victims. Yet I only hear it from people involved, even our local reporters only say fluffy things about their presence when they show up, but 1st hand reports of both civilian and responders are not so rosy.  In places they are not reaching as a practice they prohibit private response, that's a significant problem, often ignored for necessity which ends in conflicts and legal threats like we hear happening.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2024, 09:23:45 AM »
Don't their funds start over with the fiscal year?
Or, did the temporary budget give them about 60 days worth?

Looks like a rain maker is gonna head towards Fl, again.

Fires out west, floods, houses falling into the ocean, people in New Orleans living in a bowl, people living at 3000 to 5000 ft didn't buy flood insurance. Duh.
FEMA gonna need some more money.  Who sets the budget?

I don't know (or remember) where many of our members live.
No word from LG yet ?

How many of your Representatives are home stumping for reelection?
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Well I guess my new **** stirrin paddle don't work . I got a like . WTF 😈

Flo just received her EXPERT Mid range card from the NRA.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/famed-ex-uss-john-f-003916449.html

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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2024, 10:28:37 AM »
Just a fly in the ointment.

I'm sure Venezuela and Iran will step up and offer disaster funding or, at the very least, humanitarian aid.
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Re: Stay safe !
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2024, 01:25:22 PM »
I'm hearing stories its much worse than is being reported, especially in NC.  FEMA is dropping the ball, even worse, some stories that it's confiscating donated supplies to reallocate to distribute.  No way to verify, but I have seen some posts of pack trains of food and water and survival gear going in the more rural and now isolated areas.  Saw a post of  private helicopter doing air rescues for 2 days now, and has yet to see any govt air assets share the airspace.

Every time I ran disaster relief FEMA has been an absolute joke. Kroger, sprint, and Verizon did way more for NO than the government did.
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2024, 01:29:10 PM »
If this happened in Ukraine we'd be all over it.  If we just let Halliburton have no-bid contracts to rebuild for FEMA, it would be done tomorrow.  1000% over budget maybe.

We're good at infrastructure, we had infrastructure week for almost 4 years if I remember correctly.  We're just not so good at it here in these United States.
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