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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2024, 07:04:23 AM »
"On Monday, U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein visited Israel and warned Netanyahu that initiating a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon could have disastrous consequences."

But is OK for Hezbollah to attack Israel??

Maybe he should be warning Hezbollah and Hamas since they're the ones that started this crap.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2024, 07:32:34 AM »
I can't imagine how much work it took to trap all those pagers and not have have someone note they were missing in transit and get suspicious.  Most people would be worried about data collection not a bomb anyway.   How long did they sit on it waiting for them to be distributed before they activated them?

Kind of seems like a waste for retribution of an assignation attempt as some claim. Seems to me that would have been a card to play in a military invasion, cripple coms as you move on them.

If you wrote this in a script people would laugh it off as being unbelievable. 

 However, if this was a hack that somehow caused the battery to heat and explode as some claim, could have huge potential to change the way things are done world wide.

*Either way I'm moving my Chinese made phone away from the family jewels as I read this. Might start carrying it in a kevlar bag*
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2024, 09:38:22 AM »
I can't imagine how much work it took to trap all those pagers and not have have someone note they were missing in transit and get suspicious.  Most people would be worried about data collection not a bomb anyway.   How long did they sit on it waiting for them to be distributed before they activated them?

Kind of seems like a waste for retribution of an assignation attempt as some claim. Seems to me that would have been a card to play in a military invasion, cripple coms as you move on them.

If you wrote this in a script people would laugh it off as being unbelievable. 

 However, if this was a hack that somehow caused the battery to heat and explode as some claim, could have huge potential to change the way things are done world wide.

*Either way I'm moving my Chinese made phone away from the family jewels as I read this. Might start carrying it in a kevlar bag*

I would love to know how the hell they did this as well. I?m also amazed that there is more then one active pager in existence 

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2024, 10:20:02 AM »
It's probably a one-off sort of event: I expect they saw that Hezbollah was placing a large order for pagers and was able to somehow corrupt the manufacturers supply chain.

I don't think there is anything inherently explosive about the components used to manufacture our personal devices. The closest I think it comes is the whole overheating battery issue. The news reports seem to indicate that these pagers didn't just overheat, but instead there was some sort of explosive in them.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2024, 10:22:14 AM »
It's probably a one-off sort of event: I expect they saw that Hezbollah was placing a large order for pagers and was able to somehow corrupt the manufacturers supply chain.

I don't think there is anything inherently explosive about the components used to manufacture our personal devices. The closest I think it comes is the whole overheating battery issue. The news reports seem to indicate that these pagers didn't just overheat, but instead there was some sort of explosive in them.

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One article I read said that CCTV shows mini explosions going off all around the city.  Ouch!

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2024, 11:52:51 AM »
Maybe Hezbollah are slow learners.

Now someone has mined a bunch of hand held radios and set them off during a funeral for one of the guys that was offed by an exploding pager.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hezbollah-hand-held-radios-detonate-across-lebanon-sources-say/ar-AA1qMiDs?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=15f791a30ed7478f9909c44c8fc04f00&ei=11

What's next, an exploding banana?
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I'm just holdin' the tail. You guys are the one's pumpin' the cat.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2024, 11:57:14 AM »
Maybe Hezbollah are slow learners.

Now someone has mined a bunch of hand held radios and set them off during a funeral for one of the guys that was offed by an exploding pager.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hezbollah-hand-held-radios-detonate-across-lebanon-sources-say/ar-AA1qMiDs?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=15f791a30ed7478f9909c44c8fc04f00&ei=11

What's next, and exploding banana?

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2024, 01:17:30 PM »
It's probably a one-off sort of event: I expect they saw that Hezbollah was placing a large order for pagers and was able to somehow corrupt the manufacturers supply chain.

Look like Hezbollah purchased their walkies and their pagers from the same source.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2024, 01:50:47 PM »
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Look like Hezbollah purchased their walkies and their pagers from the same source.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2024, 05:46:43 PM »
Look like Hezbollah purchased their walkies and their pagers from the same source.

Major news outlets are reporting that the walkies are from a Japanese company, while the pagers were Taiwanese.  It would seem two product companies were penetrated separately.

I wonder how many more devices have potential surprises inside . . .  :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2024, 06:18:27 PM »
"On Monday, U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein visited Israel and warned Netanyahu that initiating a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon could have disastrous consequences."

But is OK for Hezbollah to attack Israel??

Maybe he should be warning Hezbollah and Hamas since they're the ones that started this crap.

They've been doing this since before I can remember. They attack, claim they were forced into it due to past aggressions, then cry when the retaliation comes. Short of conquering and genocide of the entire middle east and those that moved overseas, it'll never stop. The entire region has been nothing but one long biblical war dragged out for millennia.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2024, 06:30:24 PM »
I can't imagine how much work it took to trap all those pagers and not have have someone note they were missing in transit and get suspicious.  Most people would be worried about data collection not a bomb anyway.   How long did they sit on it waiting for them to be distributed before they activated them?

Kind of seems like a waste for retribution of an assignation attempt as some claim. Seems to me that would have been a card to play in a military invasion, cripple coms as you move on them.

If you wrote this in a script people would laugh it off as being unbelievable. 

 However, if this was a hack that somehow caused the battery to heat and explode as some claim, could have huge potential to change the way things are done world wide.

*Either way I'm moving my Chinese made phone away from the family jewels as I read this. Might start carrying it in a kevlar bag*

I would love to know how the hell they did this as well. I?m also amazed that there is more then one active pager in existence 

All it takes is one raid on a warehouse, one truck driver delivering them, or anyone involved in logistics and warehousing to let their guard down and it's easy enough to change the official products to a rigged one. Some reports are saying that hezbolla has their rigged with explosives already in case they're captured. In that case all they'd need to do is find one and find out how it works to trigger them all.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2024, 06:43:46 PM »
Yeah, but to do that and not alert anyone? They had to do thousands of pagers, that takes a lot of time and resources which would be hard to do in a raid and remain covert.

 If on the other hand Hez had already booby trapped them and they found a way to set them off remotely, its enough irony to build a whole border wall.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2024, 07:38:31 PM »
Yeah, but to do that and not alert anyone? They had to do thousands of pagers, that takes a lot of time and resources which would be hard to do in a raid and remain covert.

 If on the other hand Hez had already booby trapped them and they found a way to set them off remotely, its enough irony to build a whole border wall.

Supply chains can span thousands of individuals and hundreds of companies at times. It seems these were bought in Hungary and were shipped to Iran. Any point from the MFG to the receiver of the goods could be complicit for any number of reasons or they could've had them ready to roll to swap in.
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