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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2024, 08:31:44 PM »
My guess would be the battery supplier . . .

Most of today's products use so called "smart batteries",  These have a small processor inside them which provides the main processor battery status and charge information.  If a small explosive were sealed in the battery and combined with the appropriate "malware", it would be possible to trigger the explosive using the battery status processor in response to a malware initiated command from the main processor.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2024, 09:15:46 PM »
The explosive doesn't need to be in the battery so much as connected to it. If anything they probably wouldn't have modified the battery at all as to not raise suspicion. I highly doubt it was the battery supplier as the pager MFG, unless intimately involved in the operation, would've just slapped in any battery from the parts bin when assembling them. If you get the finished product, you can add in the explosive and controls before shipping. Even after they can be broken open, modified, then reassembled and repackaged.

I'm still going with the supply chain intercept. Knowing what I know about logistics, it's incredibly easy to infiltrate, hold up, or otherwise delay shipping to the point the pagers could've been tampered with enroute to hezbolla. Any other supplier or company more than likely wouldn't take the risk of losing sales, nor wouldn't mossad want that kind of Intel leak possible by offering.

Modern electronics have since been miniaturized. Smart batteries are one thing, there's also dumb ones coupled with charging hardware built in. By far and large though, most smart batteries are just an IC, no BMS is involved with them. The bigger smart batteries run a BMS and a switch mode charger at best, but they're usually on expensive devices only and larger ones at that. Smart batteries can't control a detonator as they're just a controller, particularly in this size and cost of a device.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2024, 02:42:46 AM »
Now I'm hearing the Israelis may have controlled the distributor of the electronics via some shell company work. That would be doubly sweet, it would mean Hezbollah paid them for the devices. :)
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2024, 07:24:22 AM »
I read they had trapped them months ago, and were waiting for a wide scale conflict to use them, but a couple Hezbollah members discovered theirs were tampered with and the Israelis set them off, a use it or lose it thing.   Have to wonder how the Israelis found out they knew, maybe a coms intercept or something. Or they reverse dialed the detonation number.  :lol:
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2024, 09:15:31 AM »
Do we really care who planted the plastique?

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2024, 02:46:57 PM »
The ironic thing is the reason they switched to pagers is because their leaders said cell phones were the ultimate spy device and ordered they all be shut down and disposed of.

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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2024, 06:41:32 PM »
Do we really care who planted the plastique?

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We pretty much know who did it. It's just interesting watching unconventional warfare at work though.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2024, 08:43:11 PM »
The ironic thing is the reason they switched to pagers is because their leaders said cell phones were the ultimate spy device and ordered they all be shut down and disposed of.

Nice!

Yeah, and at this point I'm thinking the Israelis themselves were the ones that leaked the info that Mossad was tracking them via cell phones, just to get them to switch to the pagers/radios.  :)
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2024, 07:07:15 PM »
The ironic thing is the reason they switched to pagers is because their leaders said cell phones were the ultimate spy device and ordered they all be shut down and disposed of.

Nice!

Yeah, and at this point I'm thinking the Israelis themselves were the ones that leaked the info that Mossad was tracking them via cell phones, just to get them to switch to the pagers/radios.  :)

All cell phones track you, even if you destroy the GPS in them. Cellular "GPS" isn't true GPS. They way it works is getting your signal strength off multiple towers then triangulation of those. What's hilarious and maddening is that the carriers of cell signal sell data off them to LEOs and intelligence agencies constantly. It's a huge 4th amendment issue where you're under constant surveillance without a warrant. Police also refuse to give up how cell tracking devices work too, instead they refuse to keep that evidence in cases when asked. So the short of it is "All cellphones track you 24/7, even without a GPS working".

One way pagers, on the other hand are basically like an am or fm radio, they receive signal only. The page is sent several times over a day or longer and just ignored on subsequent receivings on the pager side. Short of knowing who had the pager, you wouldn't know what was sent to them. Then all of that is pretty well moot when the message is "Go talk with _______".
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2024, 04:37:53 PM »
Hezbollah is down to soup cans on a taught string and smoke signals at this point.  :lol:
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2024, 05:26:13 PM »
They tried smoke signals, but with all the rockets they shoot it looked like Kamala Harris talking.
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Re: Gotta love Mossad!!!
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2024, 06:16:37 PM »
Who is Hezbollah's pager service provider?

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