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Lafayettegregory

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Lets buy an AXE
« on: October 31, 2021, 01:16:00 PM »
I have been carrying a machete in my tromps through the deep woods and forest of the Smokies.  It is just not up to par here as it was down south in the swamps and flat land. I believe I need something that is better capable of taking out small trees as well as brush.  BUT- There are all types of axes on gunbrokers and I am completely unexperienced with which is best.  Any experienced axe users here who can help guide me in my next purchase?
What words of wisdom have you? :) 

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2021, 08:29:47 AM »
"Best" is subjective, and really comes down to use and what you are working on.  I have taken to using hawks of some sort, I have a few, one is a one piece light combat style one, I forget offhand what brand exactly, maybe Colt IIRC, it's too light for much utility work, but carries well, and wicked fast to swing, its good for hunting and limited survival use.  When I am intending more branch chopping and constructing/ deconstructing work I use a Cold steel Rifleman's hawk, it has a useful hammer head on the opposing side, and is heavy enough to chop like a true axe but easy to carry.  I also have their Norseman hawk which I will use when I want the broader head and its a little lighter to pack around, but not as good a chopper as the Rifleman, the broad head is nice for light brushy stuff though.  The hawks advantage is the straight handles are easy to replace.

I seem to prefer those half bearded axe heads most I think.  I used an antique hand forged one I picked up on an auction some place or other and really liked it, but it had and odd handle hole that requires a lot of carving to replace the handle and tends to leave it weak, so have went to more modern versions.  The blade shape is a lot like the Estwing camper axe.   I don't have one, but I have used  it, camping of all things  :),  and liked it.  They have 2 sizes, I used the 17" one, it didn't have the leverage of the 20"+   hawks do, but it handled well and if you ever swung a hammer much, I have appreciated the Estwing handles.  They also have a 26" version, but its quite a bit heavier, more like a true axe.

Another that has peaked my interest is the CRKT berserker, I might pick one up sometime to give a try.  I have a couple of their knives I really like.

Those are the relatively cheap ones that are worth having, the cost can go up significantly with others as you probably know already.  And there are a lots of alternatives that are probably as good that I don't know about.  But for using them in the role of utility and trail work, I try and KISS.
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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2021, 10:29:27 AM »
I've used 2 kinds of AXE, deodorant and after shave. Neither one got me the girls like in the commercials so I went back to Old Spice. :sign5: :sign5:

Sorry, couldn't resist. :lol:

Other than that I have only used an axe to chop firewood so have nothing  I can add.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2021, 02:37:50 PM »
https://www.aerostich.com/gator-grip-axechete.html

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2021, 09:12:18 PM »
What do you want to do with it? Chop campfire wood? Clear brush? Construct hunting blinds? If you are used to a machete, what did you do with it that isn't an issue in the new area? What have you tried to do with it that didn't work? Also, what's the weight/ carry situation? A world of difference between carrying on the ATV and on a frame pack.

Also, don't overlook a folding saw. Great tool and they are lighter than most axes.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2021, 08:35:49 AM »
What do you want to do with it? Chop campfire wood? Clear brush? Construct hunting blinds? If you are used to a machete, what did you do with it that isn't an issue in the new area? What have you tried to do with it that didn't work? Also, what's the weight/ carry situation? A world of difference between carrying on the ATV and on a frame pack.

Also, don't overlook a folding saw. Great tool and they are lighter than most axes.
Dats a lot of questions!  :shock: :)  It needs to cut through  at least 3 in wood and chop a 6 in log.  Down south it is mostly vines and high grass and some small brush. In the Smokies it is some small brush many small trees. I will not be camping so some applications do not apply.  I need to carry this axe in a sheath on my side or back and also on the atv. Machete will not cut through the small trees. 2-3 inch with one blow.  These are hardwoods not saplings and pines.  I think i need something between a hatchet and a machete.  But someone with experience might guide me in the right direction.  BTW- I carry a small Japanese folding saw when needed. It usually stays on the atv.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2021, 09:43:20 AM »
Whatever you pick I suggest nothing shorter than 16" handle or you will work a lot harder getting through the bigger diameters.  You get much over 20" and it becomes a 2 handed thing to use, and cumbersome to carry.
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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2021, 10:53:36 AM »
Ever consider a Woodman's Pal?  May be a tad lightweight for your needs, but a super all-round woodman's tool.
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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2021, 01:18:27 PM »
Ever consider a Woodman's Pal?  May be a tad lightweight for your needs, but a super all-round woodman's tool.
I have an Elk ridge that has been my heavier go to machete. (as apposed to the sportsman guide group of workhorses)  It has a saw blade top side and a sharp gut hook on the end. It works well but I am looking for more of an axe type and something a bit heavier. 

Today I am liking Onepoint suggestion of the   CRKT berserker and the  Norseman hawk. With the berserker being my favorite so far.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2021, 01:39:35 PM »
Ever consider a Woodman's Pal?  May be a tad lightweight for your needs, but a super all-round woodman's tool.
I have an Elk ridge that has been my heavier go to machete. (as apposed to the sportsman guide group of workhorses)  It has a saw blade top side and a sharp gut hook on the end. It works well but I am looking for more of an axe type and something a bit heavier. 

Today I am liking Onepoint suggestion of the   CRKT berserker and the  Norseman hawk. With the berserker being my favorite so far.

I have a berserker and love it for what its worth. We use it hard and it has never failed

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2021, 06:29:28 PM »
LG, you can use a heavy machete for smaller trees. The bad thing for you here is 6" trees are a little beyond the reach of most machetes while brush and axes rarely go together well.

There are a few combination setups, but most don't work well. Brush axes, bank blades, bill hooks are all heavier tools for brush. Down south machetes are used more, but up here in the north billhooks are used more for thicker and heavier brush that laughs at machetes. You can use the hook to pull briars aside or prop them up on a stick so you can get a good bit on the root system or base to take it all out. After that it's grass to take care of.

How much of each are we talking here? Can you use a thicker machete and a pocket chainsaw or light hand saw?
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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2021, 10:38:49 PM »
I have a “made in USA” version of this beast and it is a great tool in between an ax and a long knife.  Very thick spine, can easily take down a 6” tree.  I’ve carried mine when trail blazing for tree stands and on a weekend camping trip in the western NC Smokies.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2021, 11:22:07 PM »
Mostly hard dried stuff in my region. Never really use a machete. I have used axes and saws of various types.  I always fall back to this Irwin camp axe. Was going to get a longer one. It's 16" handle.  Sheeth isn't all that convenient. 

Most recent use was in Yellowstone. I have sectioned 8-10 inch trees while camping.  That is when a longer handle helps.

The double sided axe use to be handy but I have not taken it in a year or so, but I found the head in a garage sale.



It sounds like you need a weighted machete, maybe what ramblin suggested.

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Re: Lets buy an AXE
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2021, 08:14:43 PM »
I have an old version of that estwing camp axe. Nice little axes. Not too big, not too small. I wouldn't get a hatchet with it around, but I'd want a larger are for bigger jobs like 12" trees or more. She'll still do a heck of a lot of work though.
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