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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by Danjal on Today at 05:39:55 PM »
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Federal authorities unveiled their own murder and stalking charges against Vance Boelter, and said Boelter went to the homes of two other state lawmakers early Saturday morning between shooting state Sen. John Hoffman and killing DFL House leader Melissa Hortman. They declined to name them but said one lives in Maple Grove and another in New Hope.

Some insight on question #5 . . . it just keeps getting crazier:  https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/06/16/vance-boelter-charged-murder-after-capture-minnesota-manhunt

Larry

Politics and religion both mainly operate on belief systems. Questioning either is generally regarded as a personal attack. In short, we're dealing with the kinda crazy you'll see in religious extremists here.
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on Today at 01:46:08 PM »
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Federal authorities unveiled their own murder and stalking charges against Vance Boelter, and said Boelter went to the homes of two other state lawmakers early Saturday morning between shooting state Sen. John Hoffman and killing DFL House leader Melissa Hortman. They declined to name them but said one lives in Maple Grove and another in New Hope.

Some insight on question #5 . . . it just keeps getting crazier:  https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/06/16/vance-boelter-charged-murder-after-capture-minnesota-manhunt

Larry
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on Today at 01:39:44 PM »
So many questions, so few answers:

1)  What did this guy do for a living?  Pastor, private security contractor, food service executive, humanitarian volunteer, transporting bodies to funeral homes, or just what . . . all have been reported.

2)  Where did he live?  Family home was located SW of the Twin Cities, but yet he was staying in Minneapolis in some sort of rooming house.

3)  Left wing?  Appointed to State board by two different DFL Governors.  Had flyers for anti-Trump rally in SUV.  Hortman was the only DFLer to vote with Republicans on a controversial bill earlier in the week

4)  Right wing?  Supposedly strongly anti-abortion.  Had "hit list" with mostly DFL officials on it.

5)  Why did LEOs immediately think to check on the Hortmans?  There are several other lawmakers living in that area.

6)  Why was the wife and family members detained while seemingly "making a run for the border"?

7)  How did he escape the parameter so quickly while on foot and seem to have a second car nearby?  Did he have help?

And the questions go on and on . . . nothing about this thing seems clear cut.

Larry
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on Today at 12:44:28 PM »
I know there is the possibility of Federal charges but why only Second Degree Murder???

What am I not seeing or understanding???

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Under the state?s procedural rules, crimes punishable by life imprisonment must be prosecuted by indictment, which is secured through a grand jury. First-degree murder carries a life sentence, while second-degree murder carries a sentence of up to 40 years. The second-degree murder charges against Boelter came in a complaint, which doesn?t require going through a grand jury.

So, just because Boelter wasn?t immediately charged with first-degree murder doesn?t mean that state prosecutors won?t bring those charges in the future. And that?s on top of possible federal charges against Boelter, too.

In Minnesota only a Grand Jury can bring 1st Degree Murder Charges.  So prosecutors bring 2nd Degree Murder charges while getting the Grand Jury seated, etc.

Larry

PS:  For more information, see:  https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/vance-boelter-second-degree-murder-charges-first-degree-rcna213216.
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by thresher_593 on Today at 09:03:19 AM »
I know there is the possibility of Federal charges but why only Second Degree Murder???

What am I not seeing or understanding???
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on Today at 07:56:04 AM »
Suspect arrested Sunday night near his family's home SW of the Twin Cities:  https://www.startribune.com/vance-boelter-captured-sibley-county-mn/601373799

Larry
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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on Yesterday at 03:48:07 PM »
Suspect's wife and some family members have been detained north of the Cities, with cash, weapons and passports:  https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sources-vance-boelters-wife-detained-for-questioning-after-traffic-stop-near-onamia/.

Reports say that the wife also worked at the security company, so it's questionable as to whether or not she can be charged with anything (weapons violations) at this point.  There are also reports that the suspect lived in a rented home in Minneapolis, not at the family residence SW of the Cities.  Perhaps the two of them were estranged.  In any case sounds like the family members were pulling a "Taco Bell" -- aka, making a run for the border.

Larry
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General Discussion / Re: Happy 250th birthday to the US Army
« Last post by thresher_593 on June 14, 2025, 06:46:26 PM »
Watching the parade.

Plenty of old rifles on display.

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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by thresher_593 on June 14, 2025, 06:43:06 PM »
Gonna be a long, hot summer.

The whole country's losin it's mind.

I lived thru the riots and uprest in the sixties and seventies. This is worse.

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General Discussion / Re: The left finally gets their Oswald moment
« Last post by LESchwartz on June 14, 2025, 05:25:55 PM »
Local lockdown was lifted an hour or so ago.  They now are showing camera footage of the guy several hours ago nearby in Minneapolis.  Manhunt has expanded significantly.

Apparently, press out of India did some background on the suspect:  https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/vance-luther-boelter-family-kids-education-business-all-about-minnesota-shooting-suspect-101749928714377.html.  Much more detailed information than the local news.

Larry
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