PSA Dagger

[Onepoint]

I have been eyeing them for a good while, the price point value seems very good. 

I am piecing it together by buying a complete frame and slide separate, I mainly wanted to try a dot on a pistol since nearly everyone seems to like them.  I have not warmed up to them much and figured It may pay to shoot one more than a mag or 2 at a time. 

This is a cheaper way than modding any of the pistols I already own, basically can get the entire pistol and optic for the same money as just the optic cut slide for an M&P.  And yes I could probably send off my slide and have it milled for much less, what's the fun in that? (don't tell my wife).  Keeping in mind I have nothing Glock but some mags for a 9mm carbine, I still suppose I can manage to get the slide on the frame. 

Anyway, I see all the slides with hole cutouts, what is the purpose of that? Just a looks thing?

Will the dagger fit in a Glock 19 kydex holster? I have read it depends, so if so which ones fit?

[Greatguns]

I've been looking at them as well. My understanding is they are basically Glock 17/19 Gen 3 clones, but looking at the slide it is angled at the top while the glock has always been more squared.

[Onepoint]

I should have mentioned I got the compact which is based on a Glock 19 gen 3.

The slide cut they call the extreme carry cut is sort of like the 'melted' milled versions of guns that used to be popular, knocking the sharp corners off, not sure it that effects the fit in holsters or not. If I am understanding correctly, the holster fit depends on the how the trigger guard area was molded.

Also what is the deal with PVD and DLC coatings, cerakote claims they are superior, any experience with these finishes in real life use?

[Greatguns]

Not really, I've always been a blued action kind of guy, LOL.

That makes sense on the trigger guard thing with holsters.

[Hodgie]

Holster fitment is really going to depend on the holster maker. Mine will fit in a Safari Land ALS but it’s a bit of a tight fit for sure. I think I would have better fitment with a standard G19 kydex tolster that was made for suppressor height sights.

Check out Worx holsters that typically make holsters for guns that can be hard to find other places and for good prices. Mine hasn’t seen much holster time so I can’t answer the question regarding the finish. It’d also OD green so I’m not sure what it actually is. I paid $250.00 for mine shipped on sale about a year and a half ago. It was far cheaper to buy this then it would have been to have my G17 slide milled then recoated vs buying the Dagger. That’s not counting the threaded barrel it came with as well.

[Onepoint]

I think the colored versions except the silver are all cerakoted, the black is DLC and the silver is PVD according to descriptions.

$420 seems like a lot for a slide and optic on a $50 frame, but it's still cheaper than a custom slide and everything comparable for the S&W or Sig I have, like by near half again.

 I suspect the trigger guard shape is problematic on the holsters that use that as a pinch point for retention.  It is nice to see some holster makers list them specifically, but the choices and cost of Glock 19 holsters is much better.

[Hodgie]

Fordfetech has them IWB for around $47.00. I have a custom holster from then for the TX22 competition and it’s nice quality.

https://www.forgedtecholsters.com/#/

There’s also some more affordable ones on Amazon and if you don’t like them they can be returned most of the time.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=psa+dagger+kydex+holster&crid=YPN1Z7QAF67L&sprefix=PSA+dagger+kydex+holster%2Caps%2C174&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_24

[Danjal]

Gun patents only last for 17 years. This is how Ruger gets away with their 5.7 pistol, and PSA can make Glock clones without lawsuits. Even then the Glock secret sauce wasn't too secret and numerous companies did copy it in their own form (except for s&w who copied it outright).

You're getting a Glock 19 gen3. At this point they only real differences between the original and PSA is the frame and slide cuts. You can stack the dagger against any of the gen 3 clones and mix and match your favorite grip cuts or slide serrations.

The largest notable difference is the polymer sights (Glock) vs steel (PSA), and barrel rifling. Internally there's a few part differences such as the locking blocks and pins for them, but most of the Glock upgrades will cross over.

[Onepoint]

What about the cut out slides,  for looks? I can't imagine I will need cooling vents for what I will do with it.

Also I see some of the RMR cut slides have the sights in front of the optic cut, is that to allow more room for an optic or something?

[Hodgie]

What about the cut out slides,  for looks? I can't imagine I will need cooling vents for what I will do with it.

Also I see some of the RMR cut slides have the sights in front of the optic cut, is that to allow more room for an optic or something?

It allows the optic to be a bit further back and for better cowitnessing. Like everything else Some people recommend it others don’t like it. Mr Guns N Gear talked about it awhile back and said he felt like new users of red dots were able to pick it up faster in this configuration.

[Filroy77]

I’ve seen all that’s talked about here. The $150 ones are out of stock so if you got one, good on ya, leaving $250 and up complete uppers. 

$ are pretty tight for me rt now but I could swing a couple hundred for a Glock clone. Probably never see these prices again but stranger things have happened.

Happy expending precious metals! 

[Onepoint]

You may want to check again, the uncut slides are still in stock, both the low and suppressor sight version for 10 more dollars.  Which is a smoking deal for any good pistol much less a Glock clone.  Heck what do Hipoints run?

My dilemma is I have plenty of pistols, but I want to go the optic route, and from what I see the best value for the money is still the Dagger using this - https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger-complete-rmr-slide-assembly-with-threaded-barrel-holosun-hs507c-x2-reflex-sight-gray.html

I have shopped around to compare, and it may not be the sexiest, but the cost of RMR optic cut slides makes this on the low end for a complete slide, and then the included optic is discounted in the package deal so much you can't find a better deal, I just have to scrounge up the money after buying ammo this month to take advantage of the Winchester rebate.   Sure wish I made the money I want to spend. 

[Hodgie]

Sure wish I made the money I want to spend. 

Ain’t that the truth.

They have blem optic cut G43x slide for $200.00 right now too. Great way to see if you like an optic on your carry gun for a hell of a lot less then a replacement stripped MOS factory slide and again cheaper then getting it milled and re coated.

[Greatguns]

Here's a side, but somewhat related question. New Dagger Compact or Full size vs a used Gen 3 Glock 19/17. If the price is the same which would you get?

[Hodgie]

Here's a side, but somewhat related question. New Dagger Compact or Full size vs a used Gen 3 Glock 19/17. If the price is the same which would you get?

Personally I would go with the dagger. I have smallish sized hands for my size and the gen 3’s are just too blocky for me. I sold my Gen 3’s and updated to Gen 4’s. The Dagger frame is nicer then any generation Glock including the 5’s which I really like.

I should also add that the Glocks are going to be a bit more refined out of the box. The slides will be a hell of a lot slicker. The PSA will clean up after a good cleaning, lube, and a few mags.