40 versus 10

[LESchwartz]

I have one of the original XDM 10mm with the 4.5” barrel. It is a great shooter and reliale. I can recommend them. A fun bonus is that mine feeds and shoots my .40 S&W rounds just fine 

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I almost pulled the trigger on an XDM last week.  The "gear up" deals are still in stock at some places, and the new "elite trigger" seems like a plus.  However, I just can't get over the lack of a manual safety for use in the woods.  This despite having a Glock as a nightstand gun.  I guess you can call me a "fudd" . . . maybe a good holster is the solution to that problem.

I almost pulled the trigger on a Taurus TH10 over the weekend.  I'm a secret Taurus fanboy, but I've seen some reports of the Taurus not doing well with the heaviest Buffalo Bore ammo.  I'm not sure I want to suffer through having to tweak a new pistol, especially since it will undoubtedly lack aftermarket support at the start.

So Pete, convince me about the XDM . . . maybe Springfield will give you a commission! 

Larry

[Frisco Pete]

The XDM does have a grip safety like a 1911, so it has another layer of unobtrusive safety built in over something like a Glock. You have to grip the gun for sure, and then pull the trigger for it to go off. With that, and a decent kydex holster that covers the trigger area, I can’t imagine that any halfway deliberate person would need a manual safety.

Which reminds me of an incident that happened with my hunting buddy when we were scouting for deer. A vicious prairie dog was attempting to attack him (honest  ) and I watched him pull out his manual-safety-equipped M&P to dispatch it. Of course he tried to pull the trigger and nothing happened. The safety was on because it is his normal habit to carry it with the manual safety engaged. So even with plenty of practice drawing and disengaging the lever, under pressure he failed to remember to do this. The prairie dog had disappeared. If it had been the vicious rabbit from Monty Python, his throat would have been ripped out! The moral is: if more that casual speed or urgency is involved, I think the grip safety of the XDM offers plenty of redundant AD safety.

[Danjal]

"So even with plenty of practice drawing and disengaging the lever, under pressure he failed to remember to do this."

Which is why I advocate against manual safeties for carry weapons. Glad to hear he didn't run into the Rabbit of Caerbannog.

[LESchwartz]

He should have used the "Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" . . .

Larry

[Onepoint]

I assume it ended when you ran away.

We broke away from England, but would be lost without Monte Python.

[Toad]

IMO, just go 45ACP. Just think of the dozens of carbines you can test out. 

[LESchwartz]

The XDM does have a grip safety like a 1911, so it has another layer of unobtrusive safety built in over something like a Glock. You have to grip the gun for sure, and then pull the trigger for it to go off. With that, and a decent kydex holster that covers the trigger area, I can’t imagine that any halfway deliberate person would need a manual safety.

I purchased a LNIB XDM Elite today.  I should have it by next week.

Do you have any particular recommendations for a holster?

Larry

[LESchwartz]

Picked up a leather holster off amazon and am stretching it for break in as we speak.  Call me a "fudd", but I picked up the one with the thumb snap for extra security while moving about the woods.

Larry

[Frisco Pete]

That holster should work just fine. I have one just like it for my XDM. It is a classy outfit that has good retention. It reminds me of the holster the Marshal carried in Justified 
I do like kydex holsters when it is wet though. Plastic doesn’t retain moisture like leather. I like the OWB kydex holsters from BlackPoint Tactical https://blackpointtactical.com/shop/standard-owb-holster/http://

However their chest holster doesn’t hold the gun firm enough for my dirt bike riding to suit me. I’m sure it’s okay for walking around though. If you want a chest rig at any time in the future I’d suggest GunfightersInc’s Kenai holster that had interchangable shells.