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If the US went to war with China would we be goners?????????
« on: November 18, 2005, 02:42:23 PM »
Hi All

Just pondering here

If the US went to war with China how much would it affect the US as far as supplies go?

Seems like everything is made in China these days.

Just imagine if every Walmart, Costco and Kmart shut down because of having no supplies.

No computer parts to speak of.  No wash clothes.  Not a whole lot I would think.

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2005, 03:24:01 PM »
no, but it would be a tough fight.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2005, 03:31:37 PM »
I wouldnt be surprized if we losed, you gotta remember they have a Billion troops and could probably pull up more out of their population. What does America have? 3 Million Soldiers, over 2 Million of them overseas in some other country, that leaves less than a million American Soldiers to defend America. All thank's to the UN America looks like the worlds Police Force sending "peacekeeping" forces to over 150 countries around the world. Looks like an Imperialist Empire to me.
 

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They REALLY need to get out of the UN and pull every single Amerian Soldier back to where they belong, AMERICA!

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2005, 04:00:10 PM »
"That leaves less than a million American Soldiers to defend America."

Are you guys serious?  Did you guys overlook that it's hunting season: The one time of the year, that America has the world's biggest standing (civilian) army?  In terms of if, China invaded the U.S.  I don’t think that they would have a snowballs chance in hell in winning.  We're American, we're stubborn, we're armed, and hells if we’re letting china take over this fine country.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2005, 04:57:02 PM »
This fine country?  I'd bet 8 outta ten would let the government take care of it or just bend over and take it.  

I am worried about China though.  Everything is made there.  What about or own military's equiptment?  Boots, clothes, canteens, ammo cans, tanks, where's it all made?  I hope not in China.  Our forces would be barefoot, naked, thirsty, out of ammo, and with no armor if China became and enemy instad of pesudo ally like now.  Even if we were invaded, we don't have the infractructure to supply an army anymore.  Nothing is made here so we don't have a system to transport goods like we used to.  China does.  We used to make everything.  Made in USA.  Now it's the exception rather then the rule.  If one day we woke up to 10 million elite Chinese paratroopers, we'd be sunk.  We couldn't move good to where they'd be needed.  The system just isn't there.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2005, 06:00:10 PM »
My ammo is made in russia!  :wink: Oh wait, I forgot the russians might be on China's side.  :cry:
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 06:04:08 PM »
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This fine country? I'd bet 8 outta ten would let the government take care of it or just bend over and take it.


NOT ME!!!

I say this country will only take so much of it and then when the enemy leasts expect it, all hell is going to break loose.
If we need supplies, clothes, boots, etc, just go to an army surplus store. They got old stuff, but it will work until new equipment can be made. Most of the new BDU's I've seen in my local surplus store has made in hondourus stamped on the tag. Not china. They got all kinds of old web gear that will still work. M-1956, alice, etc.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 06:10:16 PM »
connolpm, I want to say something so bad about your post, but I'm not going to. Alot of people might be reading this.

In case your wondering I'm not upset with what you wrote. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea about me.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 06:19:10 PM »
One way or another it'd escalate into a strategic nuclear war. No winners, only losers.

Though I'm reminded of the episode of Farscape where Crichton goes to negotiate with the Skaarans. With an uber nuke hooked to a deadman switch on his back.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 06:30:16 PM »
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I wouldnt be surprized if we losed, you gotta remember they have a Billion troops and could probably pull up more out of their population. What does America have? 3 Million Soldiers, over 2 Million of them overseas in some other country, that leaves less than a million American Soldiers to defend America. All thank's to the UN America looks like the worlds Police Force sending "peacekeeping" forces to over 150 countries around the world. Looks like an Imperialist Empire to me.


China does NOT have a billion troops.  Their population is about a billion, but this includes everyone from newborn babies to very old people.  Only people in their 20's and 30's are likely to be in active military service except of course for officers.  Moreover, because of their one child policy, their population is getting older at a much faster rate than ours.  There are not enough newborns to grow into military age to replace those becoming too old to serve.

Now that I have that off my chest, yes, China has a much larger army than we do, and we are spread kind of thin right now, but if and when China ever started a war with us, a lot of the BS operations the US is undergoing would go the way of the dodo.  Seriously, do you think we'll care what the hell is going on in the former republic of Yugoslavia while we're in the fight of our lives?  In case of a national war, the US population would also be more galvanized to sign up for military service, and the fact that we're heavily armed would finally be demonstrated to be one of the huge reasons we're free.  

As far as supplies; well, it might be a little tough at first, but capitalism being what it is, I have the feeling that some enterprising American would be able to take advantage of the situation and supply anything we need, for a slight profit.  Laws that currently restrict production would also be lifted in case of a national emergency.  We have the natural resources to take care of ourselves, and once we're no longer hamstrung by stupid laws (like the ones that tell us we can't drill for oil in our own country) we'll be much more able to do so.  

My real fear is more of a situational one.  If China ever invaded the US, I'd see a Red Dawn type of scenario, where average Americans would step up to the plate.  The Chinese would have no chance of ever taking us whole, and they'd die by the thousands to the point where their numerical advantage would be all but nulliffied.  They might take Kalifornia, but who the heck would notice the differnce anyway.  If, however, they ever decided to invade Taiwan, then we'd be stuck trying to defend a far away island dominated by the chinese coastline.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 08:05:24 PM »
WEll, this would be a way for us all to get around trhe 1989 import ban.

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2005, 08:35:22 PM »
china wouldn't stand a chance. they would not
be able to keep up with logistics and in a land
war they would just drown in their own blood.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2005, 08:49:16 PM »
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china wouldn't stand a chance. they would not
be able to keep up with logistics and in a land
war they would just drown in their own blood.


They would drown in pools of their own blood!

The pyres of their dead would light the midnight sky brighter than the mid-day sun!

Their flesh would be eaten away by maggots, and their bones would become dust to be scattered by the wind!

They would fall by the wayside at the heel of our iron boot!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, got carried away there for a minute.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2005, 09:47:25 PM »
China or anyother Country would never invade the US. Iy would be purely a nuclear type war.

We would be doomed for the most part. Those of us with extensive underground shelters which we could live in for up to a year could survive. I would be doomed....


Iran has told the US that if they invade then they "Iran" will go nuclear.

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2005, 10:13:05 PM »
I agree, we will not wake up one day to see hordes or red army coming over the horizon. More than likely it will be a stand off war,  we will take hits in the major cities probably with outlawed weapons like nuetron warheads and whatever other effective weaponry has been developed.  In contrast most of Chinese metro areas, ports and military facilities will be smoking holes.

That is if this all takes place within the next decade or so.  After that China will rival us with reverse engineered and purchased as well as indigenous designed weapons systems.  All they have to do is sink or seriously disable two carrier battle groups and take out Hawaii and and threaten mainland US and the pantywastes in this country will be ready to capitulate to almost anything to keep their perfect little lives.  China would never have to set a hostile boot on US soil.

Hell if I had to be honest ,  I dont think they would even resort to that anyway, all they have to do is infiltrate, currupt and buy their way to become the dominant superpower, in reality they are more than halfway there already.
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