Florida Shoot

[TheDuke47]

The problem is all the moving parts did not really effect the price. The only things that cut from the range rental was the shirts and food. The shirts can be cut but food cannot. At our normal turn out at $60 per person the fee would only cover the range and not food. Realistically we would be looking at roughly $100 per person. I don't mind paying that but i'm sure other people would.

March is too near to do anything about but we should at least start a discussion on having an October shoot and what the changes will have to be to make it viable.

Seconded

[Rocketvapor]

Do they really have that much business they can't make a deal for 30 or so people?

[95bravo]

oct 2018 event didn't look like 30 people,but that was the end pic...anyways,me and the other guys down here would pay the increased amount and deal with any changes...I remember the process that the take down crew goes thru at the events end and it makes me appreciate the set up groups efforts even more...having the basics...electric,facilities,camp spot,range time and seeing old friends would be great,and I ain't getting any younger. So if this is a serious discussion...lets get a dialog going!

[Venom00]

Do they really have that much business they can't make a deal for 30 or so people?

Well all the other business is law enforcement agencies with a bottomless budget so they jacked the price up and everyone who wants to rent it has to pay the same.

[JKale2923]

Why does food have to be an issue? There is a fire pit, can't we just pack picnic baskets and roast hot dogs on sticks, cook those foil wrapped meat and vegetable packs, shish kabob, or whatever creative cooking that can be done over an open flame? We call ourselves "survivors" We should be able to get thru a couple days with nothing but an open flame and for the faint of heart restaurants are 15 miles away in either direction. I do not see us starving, just not an organized dinner bell and we won't be served in a chow line

[Venom00]

Why does food have to be an issue? There is a fire pit, can't we just pack picnic baskets and roast hot dogs on sticks, cook those foil wrapped meat and vegetable packs, shish kabob, or whatever creative cooking that can be done over an open flame? We call ourselves "survivors" We should be able to get thru a couple days with nothing but an open flame and for the faint of heart restaurants are 15 miles away in either direction. I do not see us starving, just not an organized dinner bell and we won't be served in a chow line

So you want to charge people money to come out to the middle of no where and tell them they are on their own for food?

Food is a problem because you have to not only buy enough food to feed ~20 people for 3 days but all the charcoal and ice to keep it edible. Its doable but it takes logistics.

As for calling ourselves "survivors." I will remind you that there are folks who cannot even stand our highest form of glamping that we do at these events, and run for the hotels at the first sign of mosquitos. We love having those people out so we have to accommodate the most hard core and the less hard core campers.

[95bravo]

I remember my first time as a guest (9 yrs go)...we brought our own food...,beverage,camping stuff,etc...granted things changed as events continued and became,lets say more comfortable,but mother nature(rain,winds,cougars...) is not predictable,but we survived and kept coming back.I would like to do it again,cost be damned at this point(twice a year or even once a year ,if that's what has to happen). need to hear from the people who make it happen...Please and Thank you.

[Rocketvapor]

You guys could drive over to Pascagoula.
Shoot 600 yds (Mar 28). 
Camping close by and the family that runs the camp grounds lives on site. 
Think about it.
A chance to almost beat RV.

[JKale2923]

I stay at the hotels anyway and it still worth it to me even though I do not take advantage of the camping facilities.  I have a bag of wood that I have been carrying around for when I "get around to the everglades and having a few beers around a campfire" and that has never happened. That will burn for a couple hours. We do not even need charcoal as long as we can use the fire pit. We should be able to survive on limited cooking facilities and I just remembered there is even a small grocery store and little restaurant/bar down the road. I am there to shoot, and would be happy to just go out there and shoot as a guest but if a few of us want to make it a group thing, I am in

[Rocketvapor]

Beef jerky, pop tarts, and beer

[JKale2923]

Beef jerky, pop tarts, and beer

not my first choices but that is what I call improvising!

[cvasqu03]

I remember my first time as a guest (9 yrs go)...we brought our own food...,beverage,camping stuff,etc...granted things changed as events continued and became,lets say more comfortable,but mother nature(rain,winds,cougars...) is not predictable,but we survived and kept coming back.I would like to do it again,cost be damned at this point(twice a year or even once a year ,if that's what has to happen). need to hear from the people who make it happen...Please and Thank you.

Yeah, that was the first time, and it was a hoot.  A lot of us brought our own food and our own grills, and as we all started cooking, we all shared.  I took the largest tent commercially available at the time, a small generator, an internet hotspot and an air mattress.  Then after that, I started taking upward of three air mattresses for everyone in my group as well as an inflatable sofa and ottoman.  My setup was getting more and more elaborate right up until I got laid off from work.  That's when I let Eric surpass me in the tent department.   I already had my eye on a newly available tent now on the market which I was planning to get once I started working again (never imagined it would include leaving town).  I mean this thing is approaching circus tent proportions.  It's killing me that I won't get a chance to one-up everyone now.

BTW guys, for all of you who are saying that they'd be willing to pay the cost, you do realize that we'd be talking about $600 per person not including food right?  That would be pretty expensive even for just the three days without the food.

[7.62REBEL]

BTW guys, for all of you who are saying that they'd be willing to pay the cost, you do realize that we'd be talking about $600 per person not including food right?  That would be pretty expensive even for just the three days without the food.

Where do you get that figure from exactly? Because the cost of the food would not go up. The only cost going up would be the range fee which is again, $400 a day. The event is three days, meaning the cost to use the facility would be $1200 for those three days. Now, where our current issue comes in with that is the event is no longer three days, its the entire week. We have people that show up on Tuesday for God's sake and the main reason for that is the setup. So, we'd basically have to pay for three extra days of just setup unless we cut down on the "extravagance" a little bit.

Do we really need eighty-seven pop up tents? Do we? Jesus people if we rent out the range for the weekend I'm pretty sure we can use the building if it rains. The whole kitchen area is now a massive setup that eats up most of the time, so I have to ask do we really need to stretch out the area with netting all over the place? Or can we leave it to just the back section, which was originally added with safety in mind so that people wouldn't trip on the electrical lines.

The price for the days of the setup is what would kill us. Obviously this won't change the price of the range for three days, but it is still doable if we don't have all the extra parts to it. Now, again that will be a heavy check to write because the price for the event will go up drastically. On the low end without doing much math (RV might be able to give an actual number) we'd probably have the raise the price point to about $130-$150 a person. I know that's double the price, but we also have the option of breaking the shoot down to once a year so it can even itself out in the end.

Mind you these are only suggestions, and if anyone else has any ideas please share them, but I believe it is possible to continue the shoot at the same location.

[Rocketvapor]

What's an acre or two cost out in the dunes ?

[cvasqu03]

What's an acre or two cost out in the dunes ?

That's what I've been wondering.