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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2022, 06:19:45 PM »
If they declare a brace is legal and not a stock, but a bump stock is illegal, would a bump brace not fit the definition?

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2022, 09:47:26 PM »
The Second Amendment Foundation is already set to immediately sue the day the ATF drops their new rule into affect. The reasoning the ATF used to justify this new regulation was made invalid by SCOTUS via the Bruen decision. They will have to try and find their ruling justifiable under history and text vs their initial public safety claim.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2022, 07:36:36 AM »
The Second Amendment Foundation is already set to immediately sue the day the ATF drops their new rule into affect. The reasoning the ATF used to justify this new regulation was made invalid by SCOTUS via the Bruen decision. They will have to try and find their ruling justifiable under history and text vs their initial public safety claim.

Real 2A lawyer taking about it today.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUqoaCBR3Y

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  Exactly. Smart move is to wait and see. The ATF is going to announce a rule change. That new rule will get its day in court. Then we know something. Until then we know nothing.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2022, 09:21:44 PM »
What to do with your braced pistol?

Keep it loaded, in case someone try's to take it away from you........ :banghead:

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2023, 02:42:20 PM »
So here we are a few months later and it's still kind of a mystery. We did learn there will be an amnesty on the tax. I have a feeling that is their thinly veiled plan for getting as many legal guns on their registry as possible. Some states don't allow long guns to be carried concealed or transported in the cab of a car, SBR or not. (Some of those states don't even carve out for LEOs using their privately owned, department approved gun for duty.) That's a deal breaker for a lot of people. If I had one of these, I would simply take the brace off the pistol before May.
If I understand the law correctly, they are not making these braces illegal, just making it illegal to have on a pistol. So they can still be possessed and placed on rifles, but not on pistols. Please correct me if I'm wrong here!
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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2023, 05:47:42 PM »
About 20 days to go, and I bit the bullet and installed my 16" barrel from CMMG on my Banshee.  Also swapped the brace for a Magpul stock.  All legal now.  Kind of want to puke . . . ATF changes their mind more often that the weather in Minnesota.  I might have registered, but I'm always crossing the state line into Wisconsin to a buddy's place.  Writing ATF for permission just wasn't viable.

I'll probably sell the 5" barrel and brace prior to D-day to see if I can recoup some of my expenses.  On the plus side, it's much more accurate than before.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2023, 06:25:14 PM »
I have to order a couple of pistol buffer tubes I guess.  :banghead:

Probably just turn my sons .22lr at pistol into a rifle for him down the line anyway.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2023, 06:53:21 PM »
WAIT: What if you have the declaration letter that says this "item" is legal, is NOT an SBR, based on the "RULING" and the BATF letter issued? SO NOW they, BATF, sees a way to collect BILLIONS of dollars?
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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2023, 07:22:27 PM »
WAIT: What if you have the declaration letter that says this "item" is legal, is NOT an SBR, based on the "RULING" and the BATF letter issued? SO NOW they, BATF, sees a way to collect BILLIONS of dollars?

I guess you missed the part where ATF changes their mind more often than the weather in Minnesota.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2023, 11:23:55 AM »
No, didn't miss that part. A half dozen guys slam the 150MM gun owners, because they can. I bet they won't get rid of theirs ... We have ONE MORE ELECTION to turn this behemoth ship around and head for safe water. OTHERWISE ... we go down with the ship ...
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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2023, 05:30:24 PM »
I did nothing. I never bought one. It was only a matter of time before pistol braces, bump stops, solvent traps got popped. Next is binary triggers, and Elon Musk's flame thrower.

Not my problem.
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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2023, 06:38:47 PM »
I did nothing. I never bought one. It was only a matter of time before pistol braces, bump stops, solvent traps got popped. Next is binary triggers, and Elon Musk's flame thrower.

Not my problem.

I kept saying I would avoid braced pistols as I expected ATF to change their mind -- their were just too many YouTube vids of folks shouldering their braces for me to think otherwise.  Unfortunately, I didn't follow my own advice.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2023, 03:50:54 PM »
We can't have anything nice. Folks by braces, go on youtube, post videos, lookatmelookatmelookatme. Some one does something dumb. Back to youtube, LOOKATMELOOKATMELOOKATME! I'm a victim! Matt Hoover.
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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2023, 06:13:35 PM »
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YouTube vids of folks shouldering their braces for me to think otherwise

Clint from Classic Firearms did it all the time.  I know there are many other videos of such, but Classic is a huge distributor.  If I was Classic, I would be pushing hard on the idea that these are pistol braces, and explain the difference between such braces and SBRs, so as to sell as many as I could.

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Re: What to do with your braced pistol?
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2023, 06:38:56 PM »
Everything legal is on YouTube and the internet regardless if it’s firearm related or not. To blame it on anything other than the garbage ATF and the government who allows them this overreach is silly. The HEAR act was just enters by Sen. Menendez's of NJ that will ban all suppressors including those already in possession. Wanna blame that on the guys who showcase them being used as well?

The ATF themselves said braces were legal and could be shouldered and now they decided to change their minds with the blessing of the president making 10’a of millions of legal firearms owners felons. Regardless of YouTube we would be right here anyway.