How do you treat strangers after TSHTF?

[Wyrd]

Rob, while I think you were trying to be anti-kill everyone, you made a good arguement FOR kill 'em all paranoia... You say the aggressor wins. So then tresspassers should be shot without warning so they cannot return later to burn down the house?

IMO, tact & diplomacy would be far more prevailant & necessary AFTER there are no laws or cops than it is now. The old saying of an armed society is a polite society.

[Rob454]

Wyrd

Im not saying dont kill anyone. All Im saying is everyone that posted is basically saying that if they see anyone anywhere near them they are gonna start shooting. Or thats at least the way it seems. its jsut really  sad to see that  Oh my god there is no law so Im jsut gonna blast people to hell and back. I know that there will be people out to hurt others take what they have etc. but not everyone is out to  rape and pillage. You may get the punks and  gang bangers but do you really think that they will come way out there and if they do do you really think there  are only gonna be 2 of them. Most likely there will be 50+
The only way I can see surviving a  aftermath is to get in groups of well armed liek minded men and women. loners will survive up to a point but no matter how good you are  youre not gonna take on 40-50  hell 5-7 is enough armed "bad guys' and win no matter what the movies and books you read. in real life a lucky shot will kill you jsut as dead as a well aimed shot.

My argument wasnt for kill them all as soon as you see them it was more about actually standing back and doing whats right and think before you jsut indiscriminately start  shooting.
Think of it this way. Put yourself in  the other guys situation. Would you liek for someone to jsut come out and pop you a new hole in the forehead simply because you stopped on his land? and since there are no longer laws or society is it really your land anymore? Im no liberal weeping pu$$y boy. and if I came across liek that  well dont know what to say.
Its really easy to sit there and talk abotu shooting people. Let me give you another one.
The peopel who stopped are a family with 3 kids all young children.  Ok theire on your land. Ok now  since youre a tough guy you gotta kill them all. you gonan be able to  aim your gun and  kill a 3 year old a 5 year old and a 6 year old?  Oh I forgot you gotta smoke mom and dad first also.
Give me a break dude. if somethign were to happen most people will be running around going apesh*t not knowing their a$$ from a hole in the ground. Most will be worried abotu family friends etc. Some will take advantage ( thats just human nature) but I believe most will be trying to rebuild. Do you guys really want to live in complete and total anarchy  fighting 10 others for a scrap of food? There are gonna be  many kooks and freaks coming out of the wood work nobody is gonna worry about you yet. And when these kooks and freaks get their armies be it 100 or 20 000 people together theire gonna steam roll your a$$ into next year. You can be as fortified as you can 1000 people show up with ammo guns trucks and tanks youre not gonna do anythingmore than waste a couple of them.

I totally agree with you people will be more polite when they know someone is able to fight back and may not want any trouble but Youre better off using some diplomacy because you really never know. I really dont think most people will know what do do after a nuke war or some  major pick your disaster here situation but I dont think they are all gonna be out to  kill everything in sight foaming at the mouth rabid killers looking for a guy out in the sticks to take over his house.  
And what will happen if your land is in the middle of what will become gangbangers land or some religious kook with thousands of followers. you gonna fight a couple of thousand people at once? Right. Ill give you abotu 10 minutes until they open up and  take apart the house from around you.
Wanna get really paranoid. The neighbor you had all of the sudden decides your wife or daughter looks mightly tasty. after all his wife  is old so he comes over and acts really friendly and pops you  one. then he goes in and  proceeds to  bang the crap ouot of your wife who was standing right next to you  and is in shock from seeing your brains splattered over the kitchen wall. I mean if youre gonna get paranoid might as well go all the way and  start wasting your neighbors. I mean after all do you really know them. I can guarntee you that youll be drooling and cross eyed crazy in no time.
Rob

[Fredno]

I always thought diplomacy and negotiation are far more powerful weapons in resolving disputes and de-escalating potentially violent situations. I've made a promise to myself that the day I started owning firearms, I would buy a and read a book on negotiation techniques and diplomacy. I think every firearm owner should do the same. You may find your greatest self defense asset is not your guns, but your ability to talk to people. People have gotten a long way in life just off that skill, they've advanced their careers, prevented problems, and won allies to their side. It's a very powerful tool to have and it will really help you. Sorry for that little rant.

That said I do agree that there are some people who are predators and no amount of negotiation and sweet talk will put a dent in those people. Fortunately they are far fewer in number, I would say they don't even make up 5% of the general population. But you have to be prepared for them.

[Fredno]

Rob54, I have to admit, your posts are very good, and wise. I'm brand new poster here, and I am glad to see this forum has some good, sensible people.

[Rob454]

Rob54, I have to admit, your posts are very good, and wise. I'm brand new poster here, and I am glad to see this forum has some good, sensible people.

Thanx. Now my head is gonna swell up like a baloon and Ill be the most powerful being in the universe
Im sure sometimes i put my foot in my mouth like everyone else
Rob

[1952Sniper]

I always thought diplomacy and negotiation are far more powerful weapons in resolving disputes and de-escalating potentially violent situations. I've made a promise to myself that the day I started owning firearms, I would buy a and read a book on negotiation techniques and diplomacy. I think every firearm owner should do the same.

That's very good advice.  As part of my concealed handgun training (required by the State of Texas for licensure), I had to receive training on non-violent conflict resolution.  But there comes a time when negotiations are simply not possible, and you must always be ready to defend your life and your property with force.  Speak softly but carry a big stick, so to speak.