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Cal pre-ban SKS
« on: May 16, 2010, 07:42:47 PM »
OK, I've snooped a bit here and at other sites and I'm still not clear... The legal language and exceptions start and my eyes glaze over...

 I own a pre-ban Chicom SKS in California. It is bone stock except for a 1" recoil pad, some cheap sights, and a Kivaari trigger job. The spike bayonet is on.

Is this thing legal or not?
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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 10:06:44 PM »
OK, I've snooped a bit here and at other sites and I'm still not clear... The legal language and exceptions start and my eyes glaze over...

 I own a pre-ban Chicom SKS in California. It is bone stock except for a 1" recoil pad, some cheap sights, and a Kivaari trigger job. The spike bayonet is on.

Is this thing legal or not?


As long as it has a fixed 10 round magazine you're OK. Norinco Model M & D rifles are banned under the sporter phrase in the CA legal code. Also, if you, or someone else, have converted your SKS to accept detachable magazines, reinstall the original fixed 10 round magazine.

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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 11:38:44 PM »
I'm not modifying it at all except for a peep sight and refinishing the stock.

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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 03:10:02 AM »
I'm not modifying it at all except for a peep sight and refinishing the stock.

Looks like you're still in 922(r) compliance. You're also in compliance with CA law.

You're good to go.
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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 11:40:08 AM »
Thanks for the welcome and replies.


So this 922 thing,... is it what comes into play when you start hanging bells and whistles on the SKS or AK? If you have a pre-ban gun in stock config, and you just leave it alone and shoot it, you're OK?

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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 11:47:42 AM »
Thanks for the welcome and replies.


So this 922 thing,... is it what comes into play when you start hanging bells and whistles on the SKS or AK? If you have a pre-ban gun in stock config, and you just leave it alone and shoot it, you're OK?

I somehow didn't read the part of your post that stated you had a chinese SKS. As far as I know, 922 compliance is something C&R SKS rifle owners have to worry about. Chinese rifles are not C&R and therefore you should be able to modify away. So long as you follow CA state and Federal laws.

However, I'd wait or ask another person about 922 compliance, it can get tricky. If you want to be 100% sure, if you start to accessorize, just make sure you have no more than 10 original SKS imported parts.
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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 08:44:31 PM »

I somehow didn't read the part of your post that stated you had a chinese SKS. As far as I know, 922 compliance is something C&R SKS rifle owners have to worry about. Chinese rifles are not C&R and therefore you should be able to modify away. So long as you follow CA state and Federal laws.

However, I'd wait or ask another person about 922 compliance, it can get tricky. If you want to be 100% sure, if you start to accessorize, just make sure you have no more than 10 original SKS imported parts.

Um, no, not exactly.

922(r) compliance is required on every centerfire, semi automatic rifle that is imported into the USA.
It is a law that meant to stop importation of rifles that have certain "military features".

When you call your Chinese SKS a "pre-ban" you are correct in that it was imported before
Bill Clinton banned all Chinese rifles and munitions during his administration.
And If it was imported with bayonet installed,
that means it was imported before the ban on rifles with bayonets was instituted,
which was a bit before Bill's reign.

Other than that, the only real "pre ban" rifles are the ones that have had modifications made to them,
or were imported with military features, before the actual bans were put into effect.

IOW: If you own any kind of imported semi auto, center fire rifle, today
and you want to add things like a detachable magazines,
pistol grips, bayonets, night sights, yada yada,
you then need to make sure that your imported rifle has no more than 10
of the listed batfe imported parts. Known as the 10 or less game,
which is a set of Federal rules.

So if your rifle is in the same configuration as it was when it was imported,
you should not have to do anything as far as 922 is concerned.

State laws can add even more limitations that what the Feds require
so you may want to check with these guys:
www.calguns.net

They tend to be a bit more "up" on that side of things. 8)



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Re: Cal pre-ban SKS
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 08:52:09 PM »

I somehow didn't read the part of your post that stated you had a chinese SKS. As far as I know, 922 compliance is something C&R SKS rifle owners have to worry about. Chinese rifles are not C&R and therefore you should be able to modify away. So long as you follow CA state and Federal laws.

However, I'd wait or ask another person about 922 compliance, it can get tricky. If you want to be 100% sure, if you start to accessorize, just make sure you have no more than 10 original SKS imported parts.

Um, no, not exactly.

922(r) compliance is required on every centerfire, semi automatic rifle that is imported into the USA.
It is a law that meant to stop importation of rifles that have certain "military features".

When you call your Chinese SKS a "pre-ban" you are correct in that it was imported before
Bill Clinton banned all Chinese rifles and munitions during his administration.
And If it was imported with bayonet installed,
that means it was imported before the ban on rifles with bayonets was instituted,
which was a bit before Bill's reign.

Other than that, the only real "pre ban" rifles are the ones that have had modifications made to them,
or were imported with military features, before the actual bans were put into effect.

IOW: If you own any kind of imported semi auto, center fire rifle, today
and you want to add things like a detachable magazines,
pistol grips, bayonets, night sights, yada yada,
you then need to make sure that your imported rifle has no more than 10
of the listed batfe imported parts. Known as the 10 or less game,
which is a set of Federal rules.

So if your rifle is in the same configuration as it was when it was imported,
you should not have to do anything as far as 922 is concerned.

State laws can add even more limitations that what the Feds require
so you may want to check with these guys:
www.calguns.net

They tend to be a bit more "up" on that side of things. 8)





Thanks BB.

As a side note to your advice , duhast, go to the curio and relics section of the calgns forum. That's the area with the answers for your questions regarding CA law and SKS rifles.
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