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HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« on: June 05, 2015, 01:42:42 PM »
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1237621-New-SKS-AR-Magwell-Adapter-ready-for-sale-on-Website/page13

Post some 'polite' comments guys. Don't go in guns blazing. Keep it professional and clean please.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 10:06:25 AM »
Not sure if it's an actual admission, but the added comments seem to bolster your argument. It appears (after reading through many of the posts there) they claim to have changed enough to skirt patent issues... translation: creative theft. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... but stealing is just wrong. The posts over there display a nationalistic fervor. As a fellow native of the great nation of Texas, my patriotism leans south. Thanks for your dogged determination in bringing your adapter to fruition.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 10:46:17 AM »
Thanks Buck, I appreciate that. They didn't change anything except the 'scallop' on the bottom.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 10:54:20 AM »
There is a saying that comes to mind..Speak softly and carry a big law firm.. Err. Something like that lol.. Point is, arguing it isn't going to do anything for you. You own the patent, get a lawyer to write up a cease and desist , if they don't comply sue them.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 11:14:07 AM »
We are working on that. And we have a "plan" as well.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 11:39:39 AM »
https://youtu.be/bAs8acvgbTM

Guys, go to that ^^^^^ video link and challenge him on his statements. Be professional and polite please.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2015, 12:56:39 PM »
https://youtu.be/bAs8acvgbTM

Guys, go to that ^^^^^ video link and challenge him on his statements. Be professional and polite please.

Marcus

I think you will be able to tell my comment from my username  :lol:

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 01:22:47 PM »
Done.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 01:34:06 PM »
Got your back Marcus. I asked him how he feels his product is different enough from yours that it's not a rip off. Lets see what he comes back with. Maybe eventually he will get sick of being challenged at every turn and he'll give up.
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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 04:01:06 PM »
Thanks guys. I just read your comments. No a single Canadian response yet?

It took us 3 1/2 years of walking the numbers back to make it work. I wanted to just give up. I was told by 10 or so gunsmiths we couldn't do it. At times I was beginning to believe it wasn't possible. BUT WE DID IT !!!

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2015, 10:53:33 PM »
I read the list of "differences" and laughed at the absurdity of the claims.
Longer? Seems the SKS design dictates length from front mag attachment point to mag release.
Flare? A file and a few minutes will do the same to the REAL deal.
Larger button? Larger Aftermarket AR mag release buttons can be purchased.
Lower button and different geometry? Lower the button, one has to change the geometry.
S-shaped recessed bottom? Again, a file and time yields the same on the Texas original.

Lastly, the use of ASC mags exclusively? The Texas original can use unmodified AR mags if the rifle is machined.
Marcus chose to mod the cheapest part; the easiest less expensive option.

The Canadian is simply lying. Even the way the two major pieces are joined (plate to machined body) is exactly like the original.
The Canadian uses cosmetic changes to prove his point? Helen Keller could see the deception.

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2015, 11:02:32 PM »
He deleted all of my professional and polite comments, so I posted a couple more.   :lol:

I'm such an asshole  8)

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2015, 11:02:50 PM »
I read the list of "differences" and laughed at the absurdity of the claims.
Longer? Seems the SKS design dictates length from front mag attachment point to mag release.
Flare? A file and a few minutes will do the same to the REAL deal.
Larger button? Larger Aftermarket AR mag release buttons can be purchased.
Lower button and different geometry? Lower the button, one has to change the geometry.
S-shaped recessed bottom? Again, a file and time yields the same on the Texas original.

Lastly, the use of ASC mags exclusively? The Texas original can use unmodified AR mags if the rifle is machined.
Marcus chose to mod the cheapest part; the easiest less expensive option.

The Canadian is simply lying. Even the way the two major pieces are joined (plate to machined body) is exactly like the original.
The Canadian uses cosmetic changes to prove his point? Helen Keller could see the deception.

It actually has to be shortened to run correctly. We made it a few thousandths long so it would accommodate ALL manufactuers. I guess they forgot to watch our install videos.

Yup, the flare, which ours has, the bigger button is aftermarket, but more costly. CAN'T lower the button. It would put excessive bind of the catch bar that latches the mag. If anything, we wanted it higher to relieve that possibility. And yes, we choose path of least resistance for our design.

Thanks for the comments.

Go to the HiCal "post your SKS rifle" thread and make some comments. I posted up 3 of mine with dates from 2014 on them. Let's see how Dave defends that.

Marcus 
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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2015, 04:21:33 PM »
Well since you Texas boys went to war with Mexico, maybe its out turn in the PNW to go to war with Canada? They have done us way wrong and this could be the final straw.  What is it with Canadians coping you?

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Re: HiCal just admitted they copied my design !!!
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2015, 05:20:55 PM »
Well since you Texas boys went to war with Mexico, maybe its out turn in the PNW to go to war with Canada? They have done us way wrong and this could be the final straw.  What is it with Canadians coping you?

They be too stupid or dumb and cheap to invest the time and money to develop one on their own. BUT we have a plan and it seems to be working. Details later.

Marcus
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