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« on: March 14, 2012, 09:51:56 PM »
What are some of the best things to grow in post SHTF? Say we go into the greatest depression next fall. What should I be planting this season to carry me through the winter and for trade?
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Re: Garden
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 11:07:22 PM »
That depends entirley on your area and its growing season.  Look up what zone you are in then study everything you can.

If you are just now gardening, theres going to be a learning curve, a steep one.

Some things you can get going right away are herbs.  They are incredibly easy once established and usefull for a number of things.  Look for ones that are perrenials and stock heirloom seeds for annuals.  Rosemary, Oregano, Parsley, Chives, etc are all examples of perrenials that should stick around pretty much all year unless you get real hard freezes, but they'll come back if you take care.


Look for plants that are designed to be hardy for your zone.  If you are in a hot zone like me where we dont ever get a real "freeze", you will want high heat resistant plants for crops through the year.  If you are in a cold area, that wont be a problem, but you'll want plants that can over winter well.  You need to plan these things so you can have similar crops through the year instead of certain types at certain times.  There are heat resistant strains of Spinach and Kale that grow well here in south florida.  These are crops we usualy can only grow in our short winter.  Its nice to have leafy greens all year, isntead of just November-March


Look into hydro and aquaponics if you are really serious.  You'll get multiple times the volume of food in less space.


You can even grow indoors or in a temp controlled green house with hydro quite well through the winter.

There are other tricks you can use, like growing smaller variety potatoes in buckets or containers, wheather a pot or a 55 gallon drum.  This will save space and give you a significant amount of food for that space.  Those right there will be a boon to any depression-grower, whether for eating or trade.  Heck, I've grown garlic bulbs in those skinny rectangular plastic flower pots and they came out perfect.  I was also able to move them around for optimum sun, since I am horribly short on workable land.  THese are all things specific to YOUR situation though.


Only problem is you gotta start now and you gotta get serious, cause if you are doing this for a depression/job-loss/self-sufficiency reason (and good on ya for doing so) the time to learn is not when you've got a packet of seeds in your hand a hungry belly.
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Re: Garden
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 11:22:49 PM »
I live in SW VA. Up in the mountains so its real good growing weather from now till about October.  I was thinking about these http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-Pack-SURVIVAL-Heirloom-Seed-BANK-A-Nutritious-Food-For-4-for-1-2-years-/300672748403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46017e0b73 I helped in my grand parents garden from 5 till a few years ago. Just haven't done it on my own per say. From all signs the market will have a good size burp in the fall. So i plan on learning all i can this year. And go for broke next season.
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Re: Garden
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 11:59:03 PM »
Those seeds would be a good investment, however if your just getting started I would consider locating a local greenhouse that grows heirloom seeds and buy some of your plants from them. You can sew your own seeds when they arrive and still have starters up now ready to plant, assuming you have your dirt prepped.

Keep in mind its still a little early and we may get another killer freeze or heavy frost.

Best of luck.

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Re: Garden
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 12:18:07 AM »
Thanks guys. Hows the Remmy treatin you freight?
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Re: Garden
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 06:57:16 AM »
Plant what you want to eat.
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Re: Garden
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 09:25:01 AM »
I live in SW VA. Up in the mountains so its real good growing weather from now till about October.  I was thinking about these http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-Pack-SURVIVAL-Heirloom-Seed-BANK-A-Nutritious-Food-For-4-for-1-2-years-/300672748403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46017e0b73 I helped in my grand parents garden from 5 till a few years ago. Just haven't done it on my own per say. From all signs the market will have a good size burp in the fall. So i plan on learning all i can this year. And go for broke next season.
That is alot of seed for $20! I just bought a heirloom package of seeds for that price and it has only half of the variety that package does.

Im a hot pepper guy so I may get that package also...thanks.
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Re: Garden
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 01:41:05 PM »
Thanks guys. Hows the Remmy treatin you freight?

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Re: Garden
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 11:59:38 AM »
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Re: Garden
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 07:41:29 PM »
Plant what you want to eat.

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I was suprised that I found tomatoes and asparagus growing in places I did not plant. The wind blew the seeds into areas the horses, goats and others could not get to and did well with zero attention. 

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Re: Garden
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 10:08:02 PM »
I've decided to grow a little bit of everything. Even the stuff I don't eat. I can always barter it for something I don't have. A mans gotta eat!
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Re: Garden
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2012, 07:01:43 PM »
I tend to grow what I eat and can, freeze and dehydrate what I can. I'm in a pretty cold climate so tomatoes, peppers, leeks, things that require a long growing season must be started indoors. But up here (above the 45th) we have long days in the summer so when things like tomatoes get going they do really well. +1 on studying and planting what you eat. +2 on prepping your soil. Good luck and have patience. I hope you're a fast learner.

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Re: Garden
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 07:03:10 PM »
Look in to foods that can keep and learn how to can everything else.

You have to get started ASAP, just gathering seeds and not producing/canning currently is not going to help you one bit.

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Re: Garden
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2012, 09:36:21 PM »
Look in to foods that can keep and learn how to can everything else.

You have to get started ASAP, just gathering seeds and not producing/canning currently is not going to help you one bit.

Growing/canning is time intensive but even holding down a full time job and maintaining a household I still managed to start 3 vegi gardens and 1 herb garden this season. Been collecting canning equipment and supplies for the past 4 years and feel pretty prepared but it has been hard work. It takes a commitment to succeed though and it is not easy. Start small and learn the necessary skills. I have been working on low maintenance gardens by using compost, mulching and irrigation for the past 2 years. Saves alot of effort if you don't have to weed . Working on heirloom varieties this year and will save my own seeds at harvest. In my opinion working on efficiency and maximizing harvest from available area is the key. I experiment with different methods/ varieties every year and have a good handle on things now IMHO.

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Re: Garden
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2012, 05:17:57 AM »
We're doing a container garden this year. Way less work weeding and de-bugging. We're going Tomatos/herbs/potatoes and cabbage in containers. The Potatoes are in 55 gallon plastic drums.