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Mikedick

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New SKS. Unsure of Date
« on: July 04, 2012, 03:56:38 PM »
Hello there. I picked up an SKS a couple weeks back. Private owner. Was a package deal, 300 bucks for the SKS and a Remington Model 11 12 gauge.

After reading through the wealth of info here on this site, I have narrowed it down to a Russian. Definitely a refurb. All matching numbers. Also appears it may have been modified to take detachable magazines, but did come with the original with the matching numbers for the rifle on it. But I cannot find the factory manufactured stamp on it, nor have I found a date on it anywhere. I know it has the free floating firing pin in it, which would make it a later Russian. I assume I will need to know the date when trying to acquire the missing cleaning rod, and cleaning kit in the stock.

Gun fires very nicely. Had to adjust the rear sight a tad and it was consistent with my skill level at 140 yards. I am very happy with my purchase.

I would appreciate any help you can steer me towards on dating this magnificent rifle, and any other tips on this thing. I appreciate all the wealth of info that everyone here has put into this site thus far. Made it very easy and engaging for a new SKS owner such as myself!  :)
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 04:06:25 PM »
Welcome, Mike. First off, screaming deal. I don't know what the Remington 12 gauge is worth, but $300 for just the Russian is well below the current avg price. Without pics, it will be difficult to determine year, but if the receiver cover doesn't have a star and a date, then it's probably a later gun, '55-56. Is there a Russian cryllic symbol after the serial number?

The date won't matter on the cleaning kit & cleaning rod. They are interchangeable as far as I know.
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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 04:10:02 PM »
Receiver cover has none of those on it, but the receiver itself does indeed have a star and a 7 after that. There also is the cyrillic symbol after the serial on that. I will try to get up some pics in a bit, and thank you for the welcome, and the info!
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 04:25:19 PM »
Sounds like you scored a "letter series" gun. Without seeing the serial number, I'm going to guess you have a letter "I". If the letter after the serial number looks like an "A" or kind of like a tall hat, then that is the Russian symbol for our letter "D". If you had a letter "K", you'd probably have mentioned it, since the Russian "k" is the same as ours.
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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 04:27:29 PM »
Yes sir, it is indeed a letter similar to "A". I haven't really read up on the letter guns. I do know it was refurbed having the square with the backslash on the stock.
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 04:32:54 PM »
Before I post pics, is it cool to post serial #'s or do I need to obscure those? Better to ask I guess.
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 04:52:48 PM »




Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 06:13:32 PM »
Cool, you have a letter "D" in a laminate stock. Price wise, you did really well! That 7 after the star, on the receiver holds no known significance to us. I'm sure it means something, but we'll probably never know what. I have one with a 5 and I think one with a 3.
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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 06:20:25 PM »
Well thank you very much for that info! I'm glad I got a good deal on this. Something tells me I should go pay him the 150 bucks he wants for that 8mm Mauser with a Stoger scope on it now  :lol:

If there's any other pics you might like to see, just let me know. I'm still pretty new to guns in general, so not sure what the "Money shots" are.
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 06:24:29 PM »
I would ask the person you bought it from if he has the original blade bayonet and the cleaning rod.
If he is the one who put the Chinese Bayonet on their, he may still have them. Notice that Spike Bayo is not latched into position. The stock is narrow cut for the blade bayo. Also, once that spike was put on, the rod would not go back in. Worth a try to find out.
Ammo- What would you be saying if they were refusing to sell at all? That they are hoarding and not sharing?Sounds like Obama talk to me; we cant have "ammo inequality" lets take from the 1% of people with the most ammo and redistribute it to the 99%

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 06:34:08 PM »
Well, it's up to you whether you want to knock out the S/N or not. Most of us post it. I like to see the S/N of the receiver and then all the correlating matching parts with that s/n. That would include a closer pic of the left side of the butt stock, back of receiver cover, trigger group, orig. 10rd box magazine and bolt. We also like seeing other marks if the carbine I'd suspected to be an original, non-refurbished sks. Since yours is a refurb (and that's not a bad thing, mind you), the other shots aren't going to show us anything as the marks won't be there. Non-refurbs still have some original marks that weren't sanded off during the refurb process since they were never refurbed.

You've got a great shooter, that will only grow in value, especially at the price you paid.
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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 07:42:01 PM »
No, he didn't have the blade bayonet. This was an older guy that got this at a gun show, as is. That damn bayonet really threw me off when I was trying to identify the origins also  :lol: He did say he thought it to be Russian, which turned out to be a good deal, as I do prefer the Russian made guns. That love started with my M91/30.

Here's some more pics. Thank you guys for the reply and giving me more insight!

















Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 07:46:28 PM »
Here is one of the "Refurb mark" on the stock also

Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 08:10:58 PM »
If you need a blade for it, I am pretty sure some of us here have one or two laying around.  :lol:
Ammo- What would you be saying if they were refusing to sell at all? That they are hoarding and not sharing?Sounds like Obama talk to me; we cant have "ammo inequality" lets take from the 1% of people with the most ammo and redistribute it to the 99%

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Re: New SKS. Unsure of Date
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 08:16:40 PM »
Well I might be looking for one in the near future. I would like to keep this rifle stock. Get all the missing parts. Maybe an optics upgrade. Haven't decided yet. Need to do some more digging on how people prefer to set up on theirs. See how people like the iron sights and effectiveness/range.
Russian SKS 55/56
1942 Tula M91/30
1925 Remington Model 11 Standard 12G
Bone stock Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD .45 4" (For CCW)
Ruger P95 9mm 4"