Hug triggers Officer's gun, kills woman

[terry1369]

I keep thinking off duty carry piece some kind of Glock.In a bad holster design.

[Heimdhal]

Glocks take 5.5 pounds of direct reward pressure (not an indirect or oblique angle) with a decent pull length in the trigger.  Even a holster that was falling apart would ahve trouble touching a glock off.


My own personal assumptions are (for the nothign they are worth) that some one was playing with that gun in a way they shouldnt have been

or

He was carrying a revolver and it was cocked in SA mode, which with a soft side (nylon) holster could possibly be touched off with enough pressure to the side of the trigger.

[OtisDriftwood]

He was carrying a Smith M&P if I remember correctly.

[Michigander]

He was carrying a Smith M&P if I remember correctly.

That's the DPD issue gun, and allegedly what he had with him.

And like I said, a M&P with a trigger job can have a pull comparable to a 1911, with the obvious exception of no mechanical safeties. M&P's with trigger jobs are amazing guns, but they have a pretty dire need to be carried with an empty chamber or an exceptionally good holster.

I do of course doubt he had a trigger job done on his, but if anything could have played a part in it if by some amazing fluke the official story is legit, a trigger job would be a decent possibility.

[Phantom63]

It 'just went off', right? Someone was probably messing with it..like that airline pilot who tried to re-holster in the cockpit with his finger on the trigger, he claimed he had it out to 'clean' it, shortly before landing.

[Go_Yugo]

  I had an M&P .45 w/thumb safety a while back,and only some slight polishing of internals to smooth out the grit. But it still had that hinged trigger,that required something like a finger pad to engage top and bottom to pass through the guard,a similar feature to the safe/action Glock's.

  Perhaps a pack of gum lodged in the holster?? I'd like to see the forensics of this one. Of course this reminds me of a recently posted NYPD trade in Kahr K9 over at another forum. When it was stripped down it was rusted together at places like the striker to it's channel,and had what looked like melted gummie bears inside the grips. And it was a STAINLESS gun at that,looked like it was fished up from the Titanic wreck!

 Who knows how bad this Detroit cop's piece was taken care of.  Pics or it didn't happen,heh... 

Here's the NYPD gun..

[Michigander]

Reminds me of in the Gun Digest book of assault weapons, by Jack Lewis and David Steel. Been a while since I read it, but as I recall they noted that the NYPD was known for issuing double barrel shotguns because their officers would forget how to operate pumps and autos.