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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 10:05:50 PM »
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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 11:23:02 PM »
I remember in the early 90s, just married a couple of years, trying to do college on GI Bill, wife working, me working part time and NG, we were really rubbing nickels together.  First little apartment, a bed, a chair, no couch, no kitchen table, etc.

Cutting coupons and being real smart about that trip to the grocery store each week.

Couple in front of us with steaks, top shelf beer, etc. in the cart.  Cash a welfare check to pay for it.  Next trip to the store, lady with 4 different looking kids and I assume no husband, cart full of real brand name pop tarts, and other treats, same thing.  Then an article in the paper that weekend about people selling food stamps to some shady little market at 50% on the dollar then buying cigarettes, rolling papers, etc.  And in same article trading at less than 50% on dollar for pot and stuff.

Plus able bodied young men with our without families getting disability, fuel oil assistance in winter, etc.

My old man was a mechanic and logger that worked six days a week.  Grandparents, uncles, etc. also all loggers, line men, and such earning that pay in rough weather at high risk, old man died in a truck accident when I was twelve.  Most relatives with a kick back or some other serious injury at some time.

My mom waited tables on weekends to make ends meet.  I would stay with grandmother.  I don't remember having to use the outhouse, always a toilet in the house since I can remember.  But I remember going from taking a bath in the tub in the shed with warm water from pots sitting on the wood stove to uncle and grand father putting a bathtub in the house when I was 5 or so.  For early 1970s that was poor.  Same grandfather still logging at 88.  Can outwork most men half his age. 

Let's just say disdain is the nicest word I have for people that won't work for a living or think they have it rough.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 11:33:09 PM »
What's the problem? The guy's feeding himself. Would you rather him shop at Whole Foods with yer money?
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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 12:12:17 AM »
I think I read that in Oregon, people are allowed to get a certain percentage of their "allotment" in cash from the ATM's!!! They have also tracked where they are used. Bars, casino's and not just in Oregon. People have used their Oregon Trail card in NY, Florida, Chicago even the Bahama's!!!! They can't or don't work so we have to pay to feed them and it looks like we're paying for their travel also!

In Oregon, foodstamps are foodstamps.

However, cash assistance is placed on the same EBT card (pretty much just a debit card), so the people who do get cash assistance have the option of using their foodstamp balance OR their cash assistance balance to pay for an item. The foodstamp balance will NOT cover non food items (even a percentage) under any circumstances.

I worked in a grocery store in highschool and tended to get upset about things like this also. However, I learned to never judge a person soley based off of one shopping cart. I knew several single mothers who were on EBT and 90% of the time bought as healthy as she could for her children, however sometimes they would "splurge" for a birthday or something of the sort, which I honestly have no problem with.

However, I did also see the other side of the coin; people who were eating steak, lobster and the expensive frozen pizzas every night and would have a divider between their food for beer.

If there is a system, someone is going to take advantage of it. That's life. Either you accept the fact to help the good people who need it,  and that allows opportunities for bad people to take advantage of it, or you say to hell with the good people who just need a bit of help, to get rid of the people who abuse the system.

I know I'm a minority on this viewpoint on this board; however I would rather help the people who need it and accept the fact that bad people are going to take advantage of it, as opposed to knowing that good people who would do right with the help, aren't getting any because of the bad people who take advantage of it.

Sadly, I think the "good" people are the minority nowadays.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2013, 12:24:52 AM »
WA is exactly like you just described OR. However the "kwik-e-mart" in my neighborhood has no problem running smokes as food if you're a regular.
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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2013, 12:28:00 AM »
WA is exactly like you just described OR. However the "kwik-e-mart" in my neighborhood has no problem running smokes as food if you're a regular.

They should be put out of business.

I think they should limit how much money can be spent at a non-grocery store.

I had a family member who took advantage of the system and because they were to lazy to drive 2 miles to an actual grocery store, all of their food was purchased from a small-town 7-11esque type store who had $4 dollar gallon of milk when gas was sub 2 dollars......

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2013, 12:53:45 AM »
I dont have a problem with people using government assistance for what it was intended for. Which is to help until you can support yourself but most people get this assistance and use it as a way of life.
I think its funny that they raise taxes on junk food but people can still go out and buy these same foods with their food stamps. They need to put a limit on how long people can use these programs and be more strict on what they can buy and how else they use these food stamps. If someone wants to live off the government (use our tax dollars) then they should have a problem with more government control. Maybe if the government was in their business a little more theyd wanna change how they are living. Make them go to the DHS office and show reciepts for what they spent that money on, things like that.
Thats just how i see it though.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2013, 01:10:07 AM »
Make them go to the DHS office and show reciepts for what they spent that money on, things like that.
Thats just how i see it though.

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So - say... a million government jobs added with corresponding infrastructure? What would they be looking for exactly? That the people bought Gwaltney bologna instead of Oscar Meyer?

I mean - I'm all for more oversight, but at some level the oversight costs more than the potential savings. The video I posted (which is a parody, incidentally - not her glorifying it personally) calling out things like people buying liquor and beauty supplies is pretty outrageous. But what exactly would it take to even stop that?

In Florida, they tried to mandate drug testing for anyone receiving assistance at one point before realizing the error of their ways.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2013, 08:15:57 AM »
I don't see the big deal about this? Just because he isn't eating healthy doesn't mean you have the right to belittle him for using aid money. In fact, he seems to be using it very responsibly and buying fairly cheap crap. If he was buying healthy food you would be moaning and him using his stamps to pay for premium items as healthy food generally tends to be expensive food. Save the bitching for when someone's buying Filet Mignon and Cabernet Avignon with welfare but this guy is just trying to feed himself and his kids.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2013, 10:48:04 AM »
You nay sayers are fn disgusting!   I don't care what they buy, its theres not yours!   just because they get assistance does not mean they have to be regulated. or any of us get to be little them.  IM a vet , ive worked since I was 7!   I cant do what I used to at all now. and I get 200 bucks a month to help me in this economy that WE ALL messed up by allowing business to run the country.    200 to help with food is not gonna brake your bank!   Don't you see that by thinking your above some one less fortunate your aiding in segregation!   


   Grow up and worry about the real problems, i.e our elected officials  spending 70k of our tax dollars on in flight alcohol..


IM on aid, and if shtf   don't come asking me for help. Ill remember who they were, the ones who think its ok to go to church and let priest molest there kids,  or be raging alcoholics and beat there familys, or think thy r better than anyone else because they work 40 hours a week and live off credit.   Wich is the same as aid if you think abot it, gotta get paid in the long run eh?



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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2013, 11:30:51 AM »
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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2013, 01:12:44 PM »
Just tryin' to get a grasp on it myself.
I'm just holdin' the tail. You guys are the one's pumpin' the cat.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2013, 09:38:46 PM »
I hear this all the time about people who have food stamps, or any kind of aid..   it makes me very upset since I qualify for a little help in a rediculious economy.  sorry to OP  for my rant :cry:   nothing against you personaly.  its just ridiculous to me to even gripe over something so minute, against people who really need the help. try to eat healthy in this economy. its cheaper to have a good old American cheese burger and hot dog.  maybe some soda and chips.    than a salad , mashed potatoes, fresh greens, a steak or fillet of fish, that's not tilapia.

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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2013, 09:45:19 PM »
Aldi is the bomb.  :)

OP you got off light. Try being behind some FSA tweaker brood sow that had a cart slam full of prime-cut meat. Nothing else, just meat and of course she whips out the EBT.

Gots to feeds the childrens I guess but you know darn well she was going to sell it. :banghead:

Were it up to me they would be handed out the USDA branded/packaged staple boxes like in the 60s.

The Salvation Army was in charge of distribution in my area back then before the grocery lobby waxed palms in DC so they could get their cut. My great Aunt was in the SA and she would take me there to help prepare the boxes.
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Re: food stamp gripe-enough already, AKA you can't fix stupid
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2013, 09:07:23 PM »
I been on foodstamps, and working to make housing payments,bills ,etc. my going out was maybe a redbox movie. I didnt use fs for steak n lobster, id hit the discount store and stock up on staples, cheap burger etc. when i got more hours, i stopped the foodstamps. They are there to help one out to survive, not be the main source of living. Ive paid child support, worked my hind end off, as well as side work, before i had to put pride aside and apply. It chaps my hindquarters to see tweekers and families with 5+ kids, not working, abusing the system.
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