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TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« on: October 01, 2014, 06:38:12 PM »
Welcome to the most up to date database of "THE BIG ONES".

This should be the most comprehensive list of the rarest of the SKS rifles. This list is for:
1) the North Vietnamese Type1 SKS
2) the East German Karibiner S
3) the North Korean Type 63
4) the Soviet Sino Russian star marked Chinese rifles
5) the Long Barreled Yugoslavian M59.
6) Early Russian spike bayonet rifles. So far in the USA, they have been all 1949, I have been provided with confirmation of 1946-1948 rifles as well. No known units in the USA

Post if you have  a number to add, and after you add it, I'll merge your post. Pics help allot, so please add them. If you come across a confirmed by sighting, please let me know, as I cannot do this without your help guys and girls.

Thank you all in advance, happy browsing.

Darin L. Prince

NVA by year and number:

620030-BBWAG
620046
620095 Nasty57 confirmed Non matching refinished
620096-Saigon1965
620114-
630195 Saigon1965
630278
630283 gun broker confirmed cmpdude
630289 BOB THE STUDENT BRINGBACK PAPERS! Poor condition cracked stock shrapnel damage
630314 Lafayettegregory
630326 Comblock64 AKA SKSGUIDE
630328 tgus This is a papered rifle!
630365 Dzeeker confirmed possibly papered bringback
630391 PAPERED CONFIRMED 1GUNSMITH
630409 rscid-
630478 rich7twenty seen on gunbroker
630521 BBWAG
630533 confirmed by HowieBears
630537 Silverado
630584 Bob the student confirmed.
630649 DK Firearms Bowling Green, VA confirmed for sale.
630658 Non Matching Stock, Attack Moose Confirmed
630676 Confirmed for sale 12/19 www.proxibid.com/
630685
630747 Russianfreak
630840-
630843 Confirmed GB auction $2500 Old Steel Non matching bolt moderate condition
630908 COUGARUCHI confirmed GB non matching BIN $1400 11/16
630933 confirmed on Gunbroker 8/2019 staring bid $1800 Chinese magazine, and possible bulged barrel Phosphorus32
630126 japnut99 all matching with sling VG+ condition confirmed
631026 Japnut99 matching confirmed, with sling
631028 Saigon1965
631029 Saigon1965 YES HE OWNS SEQUENTIAL BRINGABCKS! one is papered!!!!!
641188- PHMunitions popped up on Gunbroker again Feb 2013
641210 Howie found at auction so confirmed by Howie
641295 Near perfect condition, matching Prince50-
641364 Seen at a gunshow, confirmed.
641383-
641436-Applegoomp
641491- photobucket picture confirmed
641511 Comblock64
641516 NVietSKS64yr matching with papers and battle damage.
641568-
641709 confirmed matching padams8888 GB 11/16
641818 oldcarjunkie
641832-
641854 Coachbrattten confirmed possible matching stock
641961 DRB
641969 Saigon1969 Confirmed
641991 NRA magazine picture from 1975 Thanks to pwcosol and Martin
642039 INDIANTERRITORYARMORY Confirmed non matching stock
642082 confirmed jlf671
642113 SKSNUT (AVD) lead
642145 Crash 0311 un-numbered stock: NOT CONFIRMED
642168 Russianfreak
642196 Josephson confirmed matching Gunbroker Nov 2016
642252 Joeybagodonuts357 appeared 9/1/21 inherited from his vet father.
642257 Lachesis
642297 Madmansker
642360 GB auction October 2024. Cool bring back carvings very poor condition confirmed, possibly matching, will update sale price
642366 currently on Gunbroker probably non matching bolt
642443 Badash
642551 Martin08
642669 ARTX
642720 not matching confirmed Oldman04 11/19 with 642793 parts.
642790 confirmed skarkulus Gunboards 9/19
642809 WARFIRE Confirmed gunbroker. starting bid $1900 8/1/19
642933-
642970 Confirmed, Sanded stock but probably matching. The Mosin Dude 3/23
643160 Confirmed Phares possible bringback paperwork with rifle. Jungle exposure evident in condition, but matching.
643212-
643230-JbrJohn
643237- Artmccann Non matching stock and bayonet
643280 confirmed by Howi?. More info to follow
643369-Martin08
653643 confirmed Swede1894 non matching bolt but! Bolt is 653792
653481-Saigon1965
653669 Confirmed Gunbroker sale $2,538.00 Crash0311 sold 11/2020
653670-LenS
653800-
653805 Gunbroker 1/25 Thanks Barry?. Not matching
654356- tcgoll Confirmed
654358-
654506 The_GA_Saint unconfirmed, matching missing buttplate. CONFIRMAION PENDING
654288 Papered Confirmed Comblock64 AKA SKSGUIDE
654544 confirmed by Howie?. More information to follow
654653 UncleLar confirmed
654718
654972_ Armslist seller confirmed
655019 Spike bayo installed. Non matching stock SLW997 confirmed
655180 Confirmed by Valmet. Resides in the VA War Memorial Museum in Richmond, VA.
655273
655416 Korkster (Info to follow)
655468-
655605- Sarge
655755-
655758 MarcC Confirmed
655765 Tgus
655779 Skratch Posted 11/2019
99 total units confirmed.










After listing in this style, it is clear that the first two numbers are year of manufacture, and the last 4 appear to be a consecutive numbering system, giving a much smaller estimated quantity of rifles. Not accepting that the first two are year of manufacture indicates both of two statistical impossibilities. One if which is that no bring backs with overlapping SN exist in the US which would be over a billion to one, or that all Bringback NVA rifles are in the bottom half of those produced per year which is about 8 million to one.


East German by SN:

59A2710 confirmed fine condition with correct sling sold 2/1/21 @ milestone auctions for $11550
59A3089 unconfirmed unknown owner(had a leather sling)
59L7882- "20z" Howiebearse
59L8119 unconfirmed unknown owner(had a hand made stock)
59L9301 "20z" DJMGUNMAN NEARLY PERFECT! with leather sling. Nicest unit I've ever seen.
59L9431 unconfirmed unknown owner
59L9820 "1a" submitted by SKSNUT, confirmed sale for $11,000 5/19 (Yes that is ELEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS at RIA)
60A4568 ā€œ20Zā€ not defaced, mismatched but confirmed Purchased 3/21 for $500!!!!! UZIFIED1
60A499X "20Z" Laminate Mkubes
60A5105 Confirmed Craig Brown Collection Defaced 20Z non matching
60A5413 Confirmed RussianFreak Defaced Markings
60A5670 "20z" Russianfreak presentation unit.
60D1018 20z Unconfirmed unknown owner
60E620X "1a" jmaurer
60E5347  correct sling and VG+ condition lvickers7 last sold July 2015 $5500
60E7141 "1a" not defaced SKSNUT last sold August 2019 $6055
60E8113 Unconfirmed, unknown owner
60E8150 "1a" Badash5946
60E8255, factory 1a, badash5946 defaced markings
60E8412 "1a" SKSNUT
60F1608  looks like a "1a" Russianfreak Sold 2020 RIA $12017.50 after 10% buyers premium!
60F1902 "19 Shawn5581
60F2218 "9"? RIA
60F2294 "1a" Kent Stonecipher
60F3577 "unknown" leadme
60F3761 tupolodog unconfirmed, K96 1a non defaced
60N3561 "1a" Martin08 Defaced markings
60N3603 Unconfirmed unknown owner
60U6729 defaced markings no sling for sale GB 2020 at $11,000 Southern-Surplus overall looks good condition
60U7219 "20z" Prince50 with correct EG leather sling
60U7507 "20z" Treasures Unlimited
60U7377 XXd out GUNHEEP on GB 9/19 for $6000
60U8761 "1a" SKSNUT
60U8810 "1a" Peter Kokalis
60N4077 Defaced 1a Pwcosol
60U9115 1a no deface George_F gunboards find.
60U9197 Defaced 1A bayo removed,  GB auction confirmed $1900 sale 4/19 stuntgoat95
37 units


North Korean Type 63:will be more difficult, as they have Korean characters preceding the 4 digit number, and one following.


1) 02157 confirmed Gunbroker sale Feb 2018 Saigon1965 and has been renumbered 01257 Gas Cutoff/ rear sight holes
2) 0213 Confirmed Laminated
3) 0351 MrLou53 Laminated battle damage
4) 0319L Harpoon Laminated no gas cuttoff, no holes for sight HARPOON
5) 0534y.... Laminated with gas cutoff no grenade launcher sight Prince50
6) 0629 BBWAG
7) 0680 cabbage Confirmed sold GB 02/15 $2575
8 ) 0717 Confirmed
9) ㄴㅌ 0722 ㅂ Confirmed.
10) 0903 confirmed Gunbroker LarryGreg. dec 2017
11) 0925 (Z) Confirmed Gunbroker
12) 0937 ..........Laminated TGUS
13) 0962 Laminated gas cutoff AVD lead, unknown owner
14) ㄹㅊ0986ㅂ ZBURN007, gas cutoff Grenade sight included gunbroker 9/23, gas cutoff Capitol City Loans
15) 1194 Laminated no gas cutoff Martin08
16) 1326H mpdphil Confirmed Laminate stock, no gas cutoff switch, Collector
17) 1346 Confirmed
18) 1450 confirmed Splitlim GB auction painted action, laminated stock, no gas cutoff
19) 1500 Laminated no gas cutoff Loose Cannon/ MrCoinring sold GB $2250 in 2016
20) 1540 Hardwood no gas cuttoff Russianfreak
21) 1656 confirmed gunbroker listing reblued and custom stock guns-ammo
22) 1798Z Laminated gas cutoff w/ papers AVD lead unknown owner
23) 1830 Hardwood gas cutoff AVD lead, unknown owner
24) 1845 Confirmed
25) 1973 gunbroker Heavy pit, Chinese bayo
26) 1974 Confirmed Laminated, Gas Cutoff, Sight, Launcher,
27) ㄹㅊ1994ㅁ Hardwood, Gas Cutoff (maybe), no sight holes Rayman1
28) 1950Z Laminated no cutoff AVD lead, unknown owner
29) ㄹㅊ2040ㅈ Confirmed Laminated, Sight, Cutoff with Launcher Phosphorus32
30) ㄹㅊ2040ㅂ confirmed... Yes we have 2 units with 2040 as the numerical value!!!! different Hangul letters following laminated with cutoff and rear grenade sight.
31) 2149 Laminated, gas cutoff, sight base, AVD lead, unknown owner
32) 2251 Confirmed. Replacement stock. More info to follow. Nick01
33) ㄹㅂ2303ㅐ Confirmed laminate stock no gas cutoff switch Juniorloaf sold 03/2015 $2557 Looks like she is back on the block RIA 2/22
34) 2310 Laminated gas cutoff AVD lead, DAWO
35) 2337 Laminated gas cuttoff with launcher and sight Martin08
36) ㄹㅁ2544ㅋ Confirmed NO GL FEATURES Howiebears
37) 2563 Confirmed Laminated Gas Cutoff Holes
38) 2871 Confirmed Gunbroker Applestrudel No gas cutoff, Chinese stock, metal matching. Relisted QHMC collector
39) 2880 Confirmed w/ gas cutoff last seen GB 6/15/17 over $4500. Old S
40) 2944 confirmed
41) 2974 Confirmed, no gas cutoff, not matching Martin08 (Bringing him to 3!!!)
42) ㄹㅊ3260ㅅ Confirmed Finally have all the info. gas cutoff, no rear GL sight. sold @ milestone auctions 2/1/21 for $5148 after premiums and fees
43) ㄹㅊ3092ㅂ Confirmed Classic firearms sales. gas cutoff but no holes for rear sight? laminated stock, very nice overall condition. GB auction 6/19
44) 4627 hardwood, no cutoff, LDGUNNER
45) ㄹㅊ1994ㄹ Confirmed, cut for gas cutoff, no rear sight...Gas cutoff missing Tom Lee posted 8/24 nice overall condition.
46) ㄹㅊ0304ㅈ Confirmed tip form 1942Arisaka on GB 10/27/24 Decorated bring back poor but super cool Sold 10/8/24 $5075


Soviet-Sino Star marked Chinese: Characterised by Russian 1955/1956/1957 receiver star, but no Cyrillic letters preceding or following the 4 digit numbers. Import marked as Chinese, and threaded barrel receiver.

1) 0396 RIA auction Buyer Superbee61
2) 0418 Full length MrCoinring
3) 0537 full length matching except for stock Teneseeshooter
4) 0598 Paratrooper Racer32
5) 0909 Full Length jungle stock GB sale 12/24 $1500 JRand215
6) 0934 Full length I sold this rifle RIA 2020, sold again 05/22 for $1525 XL1997 on GB auction
7) 1239 Full length C13Mechanic
8 ) 1289 Full length GREASEMONKEY
9) 1537 Paratrooper Paratrooper laminate SKSNUT
10) 1789 full length jungle stock SKSNUT
11) 1878 Paratrooper Spike KSI import wlhunter KSI Pomona Import sold dec2107 $1100
12)    1999 Paratrooper Prince50 "Now I'm going to party like it's 1999"  CJA importer
 


Long barreled Yugoslavian M59:




Long Barreled M59 rifles have a barrel 1.5 or 2 inches longer than an M59 and most often has a windage adjustable front sight base. Most are under SN 100 but at least two exist in the 50K range. WAFS: Windage Adjustable Front Sight.

1)  004 WAFS, no chrome SKSNUT
2)  007 confirmed WAFS
3)  009 confirmed WAFS Prince50
4)  012 confirmed WAFS dans ammo
5)  014 confirmed WAFS dans ammo
6)  015 Century Arms Non matching Confirmed ad claims to have some parts from SKSnut's gun
7)  019 confirmed WAFS dans ammo non matching stock
8 ) 021 confirmed WAFS Phosphorus32 non matching stock
9) 029 confirmed WAFS dans ammo
10) 031 confirmed WAFS
11) 034 confirmed WAFS dans ammo
12) 037 confirmed WAFS dans ammo non matching stock
13) 039 confirmed WAFS
14) 040 confirmed WAFS Phosphorus32 matching stock
15) 048 confirmed jmaurer
16) 057 WAFS No Chrome ToeKnee
17) 058 confirmed WAFS  ToeKnee
18) 061 confirmed WAFS
19) 068 howiebears WAFS
20) 072 confirmed dans ammo non matching stock
21) 077 confirmed WAFS
22) 078 confirmed WAFS Wacman85
23) 080 confirmed WAFS
24) 081 confirmed WAFS jmaurer
25) 083 WAFS NO Chrome BBWAG
26) 084 confirmed NO Chrome SKSNUT
27) 086 WAFS No chrome Confirmed
28) 092 Raspootyn board claim unconfirmed, but I bought 009 from Dimitri who is most likely Raspootyn.
29) c36439 Confirmed Phosphorus32
30) C44140 Confirmed
31) 50456 Chrome No WAFS Tangent jmaurer confirmed


Early features Russian with spike bayonet. These rifles are usually 1949, but proof has been presented of 1946-1948 rifles. Right now I am concentrating solely on the light refurb spikers with the correct early features. I know MANY 1949 heavy refurbs with blades exist in the US, so I do not want to dive into that pool.

1) Oл1667 Light reurb all correct parts PCKE2000
2) HM1949 Light refurb all correct parts Prince50
3) юв837 Light refurb, force matched mag sold GB 5/2022 $5125
4) ГМ290 Light Refurb non matching but 1949 topcover. Bozmanite Offered on GB 7/22 for BIN $5000 did not sell.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2025, 06:42:02 PM by Prince50 »
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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 07:23:34 PM »
SN 630391 With capture papers. Papers say it is Russian but it has the star with a 1 in it, Got it out of an Estate in 2009.

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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 07:51:37 PM »
SN 630391 With capture papers. Papers say it is Russian but it has the star with a 1 in it, Got it out of an Estate in 2009.
Post pics of it please!  Also post an introduction post to the forum or otherwise you will be "kicked to the curb" by forum management per the rules of the forum.  Otherwise, welcome to the forum!
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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 08:35:59 PM »
Please post PICS! I will add it right now.

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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 09:37:17 PM »
New to the forum so forgive my ignorance. Photos of the papers attached. I will dig out the rifle in a minute and post more.

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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 09:51:37 PM »
Photos of the from North Vietnam rifle attached. Need anything else let me know.

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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2019, 03:32:10 PM »
32) 60U9197 Defaced 1A bayo removed, refinished stock GB auction confirmed chills 2133

Got a new one on a popular action site that brokers guns.
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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 12:54:10 PM »
I purchased the gb eg sks. May I ask what led to the determination that the stock has been refurbished?

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 07:38:28 PM »
All,

I have adjusted the notation on EG number 32 to remove the "refinished stock". The owner Stuntgoat95 is sure the stock has not been refinished.

Great rifle!

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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 06:16:43 PM »
Karabiner S,  #60F3761,  I have not had a chance to photo it yet.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2019, 07:55:05 PM »
Karabiner S,  #60F3761,  I have not had a chance to photo it yet.

Still waiting for PICS.

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 07:08:50 PM »
Darin, a new one I think. NVA 641938 sold on Gun Broker.
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/854953736

A collector friend of mine and a member here got it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2020, 11:06:26 PM »
Darin, a new one I think. NVA 641938 sold on Gun Broker.
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/854953736

A collector friend of mine and a member here got it.

No "M21" on the receiver?  I always thought that was the mark of an NVA.
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Re: TRACKING THE UBER RARE SKS RIFLES
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 11:16:19 PM »
Darin, a new one I think. NVA 641938 sold on Gun Broker.
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/854953736

A collector friend of mine and a member here got it.

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2020, 11:26:16 PM »
Darin, a new one I think. NVA 641938 sold on Gun Broker.
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/854953736

A collector friend of mine and a member here got it.

No "M21" on the receiver?  I always thought that was the mark of an NVA.
Nope. Though there were Chinese M21 Carbines in Nam.
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