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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2006, 10:21:31 AM »
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9/11 was a crime, not an act of war..  


9-11 was an act of war committed by an islamo-facist muslim terrorist organization called AlQuieda. You hate Bush so much you cannot see and understand why we are in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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I think the motive behind this movie (other than make $) was to piss the American public off. I am not going to give the directors that pleasure.


I hope this movies does piss off us Americans. Theres alot of libs crying  "waaaa waaaa it too early for this type of movie." I think we should revitalize the anger we all felt on 9-11.

If my Grandpops were alive and seen some of  the things that are said nowdays Im sure he would demand his time  for service in WW1 be given back. I know there is alot of people in this country I would not want to go to war for.

Its these type that are complacent and would rather appease the enemy than kick their fu@(ing ass!
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2006, 10:38:04 AM »
ah, we have now reverted to the 'red state/blue state' mentality . . . .

so, if you don't suck bush off and litter his path with rose petals, you're a liberal . . . ?  :?

some of you love bush so much, you don't understand why we are in afghanistan and iraq . . .  :lol:

i'm sure you're grandchildren and great-grandchildren will remember you fondly as the generation that picked a fight with 1/3 of the planet and destroyed the constitutional republic that was the united states of america.

congrats . . . .  :roll:

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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2006, 11:08:26 AM »
I'm not a Bush fan at all.  However, I do believe 9/11 happened and was a Islamist terrorist attack upon our country.  Our response to Afghanistan was totally justified although bungled by Bush/Rumsfeld.  Iraq is a different story.  It was wrong for a number of reasons.  Now it has hampered our ability to deal with Iran which is a real threat.  Iran is just like Germany was in 1936.  The Iran situation is going to get real ugly before its all said & done.  I wish we'd get the hell out of the middle east and develop our own resources so we wouldn't get embroiled at all.  The truth is it would be cheaper even if gas hit $10/gal.  Having said all this, (sorry for the rant)  United 93 is a worthwhile film that I felt as strongly about as Saving Private Ryan.

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2006, 11:31:26 AM »
a general disobeyed orders scrambled his jets to that location and had the jet shot down

the movie is 100 % propaganda and twist of history

you have been misguided it all was a false flag operation a contrived crisis for social change look up operation northwood and enjoy your bliss

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2006, 01:28:58 PM »
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if we are indeed at war, why hasn't congress legally and constitutionally declared war?
Yea, like they did in Korea, Viet Nam, etc.  Congress has decided that it puts their re-election in jeopardy so they don't do it.


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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2006, 01:36:13 PM »
I havn't seen the movie yet. I knew in my heart what happened on 9/11 when they showed the radar track of that plane turned around over Cleveland and crashed in Shanksville. The story of the men and women who gave their lives on that plane to save other lives should be told. Please leave politics out of it. I doubt the people who fought had one political thought in the whole time that they had to face their death. If the survivors are ok with it what right do we have to question? Isn't the selfless act in and of itself worth honoring? I don't think the people that fought thought they had much of a chance to save themselves but they still fought to the death. I think of the stories of men jumping on grenades and then someone who had 1/2 hr or 45 minutes to consider the act before jumping...

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2006, 08:38:52 PM »
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a general disobeyed orders scrambled his jets to that location and had the jet shot down

the movie is 100 % propaganda and twist of history

you have been misguided it all was a false flag operation a contrived crisis for social change look up operation northwood and enjoy your bliss


What proof do you have of this?

You're idea is just that, an idea, until you have some actualy physical evidence.

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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2006, 09:09:43 AM »
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bullsh*t?  a small group of religious fanatics not officially backed by any nation allegedly commits mass-murder and that is an act of war?
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2006, 02:11:57 PM »
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bullsh*t?  a small group of religious fanatics not officially backed by any nation allegedly commits mass-murder and that is an act of war?
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It is these countries that harbor the terrorist that makes this a war.


tim mcveigh and co. lived in america, does that mean we are a nation that harbors terrorists?

terrorists dwelt in both england and n. ireland during their little spat, are they nations that harbor terrorists?

objectivity is key.

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2006, 02:30:07 PM »
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tim mcveigh and co. lived in america, does that mean we are a nation that harbors terrorists?

terrorists dwelt in both england and n. ireland during their little spat, are they nations that harbor terrorists?

objectivity is key.
You're intentionally misreading.  There is a difference between McVeigh and a country that gives SAFE harbor to terrorists, and aids and abets them.  Terrorists can live anywhere, when a government supports them a line is drawn.


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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2006, 02:56:16 PM »
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tim mcveigh and co. lived in america, does that mean we are a nation that harbors terrorists?

terrorists dwelt in both england and n. ireland during their little spat, are they nations that harbor terrorists?

objectivity is key.
You're intentionally misreading.  There is a difference between McVeigh and a country that gives SAFE harbor to terrorists, and aids and abets them.  Terrorists can live anywhere, when a government supports them a line is drawn.


what nations are you referring to, galahad?  perhaps the 'terrorist' taliban gov't of afghanistan?  you know, the one we put in power and gave aid to . . . .

or saddam's iraq, who we also put in power and sold weapons of mass destruction?

or osama bin laden himself, who we trained and gave arms/support to?

or any of the other 'rebel' groups we suppported over the last 50 years in armpits all over the world?

do these people simply become terrorists because we stopped paying them (if we even have)?  they are 'freedom fighters' while they're 'terrorizing' our enemies on our payroll, but they're suddenly 'terrorists' when they turn and bite the hand that feeds?

if we did those things (which we did), does that mean the US supports and funds terrorism?

again, objectivity is key, and naivete or selective memory is not an excuse for being a hypocrite, which is what one becomes when they start pointing fingers around the world :D .

our foreign policy finally seems to be catching up with us, huh?

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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2006, 03:06:15 PM »
Does the movie show passengers using cell phones that don't actually work in the air? Or did they catch that error and replace the cell phones with airplane phones?
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2006, 05:27:01 PM »
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Does the movie show passengers using cell phones that don't actually work in the air? Or did they catch that error and replace the cell phones with airplane phones?


Some use airplane phones and some use cell phones.

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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2006, 06:31:42 PM »
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what nations are you referring to, galahad?  perhaps the 'terrorist' taliban gov't of afghanistan?  you know, the one we put in power and gave aid to . . . .
Yes, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, et. al.   And changing the subject to how those goverments got into power is an interesting tactic but I'd rather just stick to the topic.  IF a foreign government aids and abets terrorists who subesequently use their training facilities to launch teams to blow up trains, fly airplanes into buildings, or whatever, then YES, I consider that nation to be committing acts of war.  

And yes, we've done it as well.


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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2006, 10:44:35 PM »
i wasn't consciously changing the subject.  for me, that is the heart of the matter.  we cry 'foul' and our blood boils when we finally get a taste of what we've been shoveling all around the world.  we created the monsters we are supposedly dealing with, all of them.

how many years did we toss money at anyone who was 'fighting the communists' without thoroughly checking their resumes or having enough forethought to think what these whackjobs might one day do with their power and position, that, ironically, was funded by US tax dollars?

it would be nice to learn lessons from these setbacks instead of compounding our past mistakes by repeating them.  we need to be much more mindful of our 'foreign entanglements' in the future  :? .

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