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Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« on: December 16, 2007, 07:56:42 PM »
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 08:14:40 PM »
The Finnish rebarreled the mosin-nagant in 7.62x51 Nato for their Tkiv 85 sniper rifles. I've never heard of it being converted to 7.62x39.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 08:40:49 PM »
That would be a major pain in the nuts if it could even be done.

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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 09:44:39 PM »
I am no expert. Converting from a rimmed cartridge action to a rimless plus the bnecessary chamber and feeding issues would be significant.  Taking a $79 rifle to many, many hundreds of dollars in modifications if at all possible.

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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 11:10:44 PM »
Besides x54r  surplus ammo is cheaper.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 02:53:54 PM »
not for long. 54 has increased in my area.
I'm thinkin' you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling, so why don't we just ignore each other 'til we go away?

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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 02:59:48 PM »
Same here.  Can't find 54R for a decent price at the shows anymore. There is a ton of x39 though.

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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 03:07:46 PM »
$42 for 300 still isn't that bad and try to find surplus x39. your right though it has gone up over the last year and I only paid $25 for 300 just 8 months ago.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 03:44:30 PM »
8mm has also gone the way of the dodo.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 03:55:53 PM »
There are rumors that 7.62x54R has gotten a bit more rare because of the use of it by Iraqi security forces in a few of their machine guns. I do not know if this is true or a marketing gimmick but either way its getting a bit more pricey.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2007, 04:45:45 PM »
There are rumors that 7.62x54R has gotten a bit more rare because of the use of it by Iraqi security forces in a few of their machine guns. I do not know if this is true or a marketing gimmick but either way its getting a bit more pricey.

I also read about this. Uncle Sam himself is supposedly bidding on the 54R coming into the country and sending it over to the sand box for training. Lots of SVD's over as well.

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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2007, 05:15:47 PM »
I'd have to agree why bother with x39 convert. now the 7.62 nato or 308 would be more logical. But still a silly idea to convert one to anything other than what it was ment to be. The money spent to convert could just as well buy a decent rifle in that caliber. Anyway it's just my 2 paso's
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2007, 10:59:43 PM »
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2007, 01:22:42 PM »


The top rifle is a Finnish Tkiv 85 which is basically a mosin nagant action on a 7.62x51 barrel. The stock and accessories are different, but under the skin it is still a tried and tested Mosin Nagant. The Finnish excel in taking older reliable firearms and updating them to fit their needs.
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Re: Mosin Nagant in 7.62x39?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 05:35:48 PM »
Thanks for all the replies.  To clarify my question, it's not something I am planning on building.  I was fondling some of my weapons, and got to thinking about 20th century Commie weapon evolution.  It occured to me that the SKS is in many ways an offspring of the M-N rifle, so maybe there were some bolt action rifles made somewhere to use the new ammo in the old guns.  I have read of 7.62x54r protos that were built along the path that lead to the SKS.  So why not some Mosin carbines in the new whiz-bang carbine cartrige?  May have happened.  It would be quite a find if there were any out there as a collectable.  In all practicality, if one wanted a gun similar to that today as a shooter, it would be cheaper to shell out the $600 or so for a CZ then to start with a $75 host and throw 100 hours into the project.  IMHO.

I wouldn't expect to find any 7.62x39 bolt action rifles that were used in military service - since this round was specifically developed for controllable full auto fire with assault rifles, it's hard to imagine any (military) neccessity for a bolt gun in this caliber.      
 
On the other hand, it does make a LOT of sense to rechamber a rifle that fires obsolete rounds like 7.5 and 7.7 - and the good news is that inserts are available for $25. There's an article about them here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/tigerloudhousecat/index.asp    

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I should point out that MCA also makes a lot of other nifty little items other than the tested 7.62x39 insert. They also have adapters that will allow you to use the 7.62x39 in the following:
7.5 French
7.65 Argentine
8mm Mauser
7.7 Japanese
30-06
The cost for these adapters are $25. They do have a stock of semi-custom adapters for conversions of some mil-surp rifles and they can do custom adapters for your rifle from fired casings or chamber castings. They even have inserts for shotguns.
 
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