New Assult Wepons Ban

[VZ58]

Not again.... 

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6257:



H.R.6257
Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 (Introduced in House)

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Beginning
June 12, 2008

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
SEC. 2. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.
SEC. 3. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
SEC. 4. STUDY BY ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SEC. 5. EFFECTIVE DATE.
SEC. 6. APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF TITLE 18.
`APPENDIX A
`Centerfire Rifles--Autoloaders
`Centerfire Rifles--Lever & Slide
`Centerfire Rifles--Bolt Action
`Centerfire Rifles--Single Shot
`Drillings, Combination Guns, Double Rifles
`Rimfire Rifles--Autoloaders
`Rimfire Rifles--Lever & Slide Action
`Rimfire Rifles--Bolt Actions & Single Shots
`Competition Rifles--Centerfire & Rimfire
`Shotguns--Autoloaders
`Shotguns--Slide Actions
`Shotguns--Over/Unders
`Shotguns--Side By Sides
`Shotguns--Bolt Actions & Single Shots

[BillyBang]

I can't get your link to work.


BB

[yugoshooter]

I can't get your link to work.


BB

For some reason it wont work from this site but works on this one. http://www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php?p=31796#post31796   

[BillyBang]

Yeah, this types of legislation is being pushed for all the time.
So far, much of it dies in committee.
So yes there are people in our government that have an agenda for getting rid of firearms.
Why? They live sheltered lives a way up some big city, with their dwelling on the 30th floor of some major aparment complex.
To them, it must seem like the answer to all of our problems. < shrug >
They don't even think about other life.

BB

[gunlover]

Cool no SKS or AK are on the list. No surplus weapons, although it bites! because it infringes on our constitutional right to bear arms. Start writing the "Honorable Judge Thomas".

[sierra117]

Well, the bill's language didn't specifically mention "any and all AKs", but it banned a specific manufacturer's AK clone, then later on states that any "copy or duplicate in any caliber" of aforementioned rifles are also banned. I'm sure the BATFE would read the bill as banning AKs.

Some completely stock SKS's from certain countries look to be safe from this bill, but a lot aren't... the bill bans flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, grenade launchers and any Norinco. Keep in mind, if you remove parts from your yugo or try to remove your bayonet lug, you've got section 922 problems.

The best thing we can do= REMEMBER. Take careful note of every congressional member who has signed onto this POS bill, write them to tell them you're disgusted with them and will vote for whoever is running against them next time they're up, and actually follow through if you're in their district. Thats the only language these people understand.

Some of you people are quick to say "oh, its ok... there is no way this will pass", but think about it... these are Republicans who wrote this bill. You know where the Dems sit. And by the time this bill gets processed and is up for a vote, we could very well have a President Obama, a veto-proof Dem majority in the Senate and a Dem controlled House.

[Onepoint]

It lists AKs, and the description alone includes AKs as well.

Write your congressman 1st.

[BillyBang]

It's no surprise.
Considering who's sponsoring the bill.
Probably BO's good buddy.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6257

My Senators both know of my stand on the reinstatement of any new AWB.
Trouble is, One cares and one doesn't.
I've told our congressmen the same thing.
There are several steps that a bill goes through with many changes and additions before it goes to the house and senate to be voted on, then on to the president.

Again, so far, and with the help of ten years of assault weapons ban,
showing that an AWB didn't do diddley to reduce crime,
there hasn't been enough support to spend a lot of time doing it again.

The trouble will come in when there get's to be enough liberals on both sides,
to just do it, because it's what they want.
We'll know a lot more this fall.

In the mean time, let your Representatives an Senators know how you stand.
Being silent does no good. It just makes the other side seem louder. 

BB

[Logan7]

The Congressman who wrote it introduced it this way:

HON. MARK STEVEN KIRK
OF ILLINOIS
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
THURSDAY, JUNE 12, 2008

Mr. KIRK. Madam Speaker, today I join Representatives Castle, Ferguson and Shays in introducing the Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008. This September will mark the fourth anniversary of the expiration of the landmark 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms reported that crimes involving assault weapons dropped by two-thirds while the Federal ban was in effect. As the Nation witnesses a dramatic spread of violent gang activity, it is imperative that we take action to keep automatic weapons out of the hands of these criminals. It is high time to bring back the ban.

This bill will prohibit the domestic manufacture and sale of military-style semi-automatic assault weapons such as AK-47s and UZIs, as well as high-capacity ammunition clips that hold more than ten rounds. It also includes weapons designed to fit accessories such as flash suppressors, silencers, and bayonets--accessories that serve no legitimate purpose outside the military and law enforcement.

The Mexican government is currently engaged in a violent war against heavily armed, extremely violent drug traffickers. Just recently the cartels assassinated the Mexican equivalent of our FBI Director. They are now threatening President Calderon's life.

These gangs operate in every major metropolitan area in the United States, and are increasingly active in suburban America where the local police are ill-equipped to meet this threat. Restoring the assault weapons ban will help level the playing field for these police as they work to keep our communities safe and gang-free.

I urge my colleagues to join me in sponsoring this commonsense legislation.

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Amazing that Mexican drug traffickers are being used as an excuse, isn't it!

This dim Congressional bulb has stated to the House of Representatives that murderous cop-killing criminals who smuggle in tons of drugs every year across the border need to buy our semi-autos to commit their crimes. Because why? - they are incapable of smuggling across the real assault weapons they already have in Mexico.

Got that? -And especially in demand are the ones with bayonet lugs.

[gunlover]

I do not see why anyone does not file a law suite against these morons. Did the SCOUTS just not decide that it is the American people's right to bear arms? The DC case, if so why are these people still trying to defy this? I feel very sorry for these morons if they pass this, it is going to create a lot of blood shed.

They will have more then the Mexicans or drug cartels  to worry about....

[runofthemill]

Can anyone come up with even one example of anyone being killed in this country by a bayonet, since, say the Civil War?

[gunlover]

It's no surprise.
Considering who's sponsoring the bill.
Probably BO's good buddy.

BB

I really did not understand this BB?? B.O. turned Republican? I mean it was the Republican party that introduced this correct? Just trying to understand what you are saying here.. TIA

[sierra117]

If that guy actually believes the BS he was spouting in that explanation, he should be locked up in an institution for the dangerously insane.

Every single premise he has based the "need" for this bill on is completely false.

If Kirk and those other pork-loving, career politician hacks don't think rifles like mine are fit for the American public to own, I kindly invite him to knock on my door and try to confiscate it himself.

In my opinion, this country's core founding freedoms and principles, as voiced in the Constitution, are worth fighting for.

 

[ArmedSkeptic]

SEC. 2. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.

This seems to me to be different than the last time, at least the one that was passed in 94.

This one is a license for the ATF to kick down every door in American to collect every 11 shot + pistol magazine and every dangerous looking gun.

I just hope no more innocent kids or wives holding babies get shot by them when people fight back.

[gunlover]

SEC. 2. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.

This seems to me to be different than the last time, at least the one that was passed in 94.

This one is a license for the ATF to kick down every door in American to collect every 11 shot + pistol magazine and every dangerous looking gun.

I just hope no more innocent kids or wives holding babies get shot by them when people fight back.

It will never happen, as stated before the Supreme court says that Americans are allowed to own weapons, was that not their conclusion in the DC case. The constitution does not say that the weapons have to be US made weapons, and if it does pass their is going to be blood shed, plain and simple leave us alone or you will die...