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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2010, 06:00:08 PM »
At the very least. When you're not expecting it, SKS on full auto is quite a hand full.  :shock: Somebody could have easily gotten hurt, or worse.

Been there....done that....have your firing pin because of it.   :lol:
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2010, 09:19:19 PM »
It's rumored that a 'select" fire SKS was built and issued for a short time.

Is this true, and if so how is it different from a standard SKS?

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm

It mostly just looks like an SKS, from what I understand the guts are mostly Kalashnikov, including a rotating bolt, although how they got that to work with a BHO I don't really know, maybe something others should look into. What's not mentioned is how a shipment of 'semi-auto only' Type 63s went to Australia before they went all nutty and the way they were 'demilled' was the fire selector was given an internal weld tack so it couldn't move. Chinese are nothing if not practical.

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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2010, 12:16:58 AM »
It's rumored that a 'select" fire SKS was built and issued for a short time.

Is this true, and if so how is it different from a standard SKS?

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm

It mostly just looks like an SKS, from what I understand the guts are mostly Kalashnikov, including a rotating bolt, although how they got that to work with a BHO I don't really know, maybe something others should look into. What's not mentioned is how a shipment of 'semi-auto only' Type 63s went to Australia before they went all nutty and the way they were 'demilled' was the fire selector was given an internal weld tack so it couldn't move. Chinese are nothing if not practical.

 :shock: Good info, HR!
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2010, 11:06:41 PM »
So while not a true SKS it's pretty darn close.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2010, 11:16:21 PM »
Wow, it looks very similar.   :shock:
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 09:37:38 AM »
Short link to the type 63/68 rifle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_63_assault_rifle

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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 09:42:06 AM »
Ok, dumb question but would a SKS, or any other rifle not made for FA, not hold up once converted? Like on the AR the bolt carrier is heavier and thicker on a FA than a semi. Not saying the SKS is not a durable rifle but normally a conversion does tend to weaken the FCG and/or can only fire FA.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2010, 02:48:44 PM »
The barreled receiver and major components may be able to survive the extra stresses, but the trigger group would be subjected to abnormal forces that could cause part failure.

Yes, the change would mean that you "can only fire FA."

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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 03:25:52 PM »
Ok, dumb question but would a SKS, or any other rifle not made for FA, not hold up once converted? Like on the AR the bolt carrier is heavier and thicker on a FA than a semi. Not saying the SKS is not a durable rifle but normally a conversion does tend to weaken the FCG and/or can only fire FA.

Depends on the rifle BD.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 06:13:06 PM »
The barreled receiver and major components may be able to survive the extra stresses, but the trigger group would be subjected to abnormal forces that could cause part failure.

Yes, the change would mean that you "can only fire FA."



Actually, there was an article eons ago where a guy made a select fire SKS.  It took a bunch of FCG and stock modification, but it worked.  His conclusion was the cycle rate would literally beat the gun apart.  After a few hundred rounds, the gas piston and extension rod looked like it had been worked over by a jackhammer.  Bolt face wasn't pretty, either.  I'll see if I can dig it up later.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 06:36:02 PM »
I didn't think it would hold up, even rifles that are built for full auto take a good beating. I'm sure the barrel wouldn't last long seeing how machine guns have replaceable barrels.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 07:11:40 PM »
I think most tilting bolt guns with FA capabilities have cyclic reducing mechanisms built in to avoid mechanical failure, even then FA versions of the M14 or FAL from what I understand just do not last like the SA versions. It's not even wear per se, but just a massive failure to dissipate heat properly.

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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 07:15:27 AM »
I think most tilting bolt guns with FA capabilities have cyclic reducing mechanisms built in to avoid mechanical failure, even then FA versions of the M14 or FAL from what I understand just do not last like the SA versions. It's not even wear per se, but just a massive failure to dissipate heat properly.

Thats what it boils down to. Controlled groups make any rifle last longer vs blazing away ammo. A couple shots isnt so bad. Mag dumps will kill a semi and an auto.
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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2012, 09:27:22 PM »
I have the same manual Muray is referring to and it's a "key" type unit that you install or remove...  Still baffles me why some people want a full-auto sks  :?

I still don't understand why they ever put the microchip keys in GMC trucks.   Costs $135 to get a replacement!

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Re: Idiots SKS conversion to full-auto
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2012, 10:56:55 PM »
I have the same manual Muray is referring to and it's a "key" type unit that you install or remove...  Still baffles me why some people want a full-auto sks  :?

I still don't understand why they ever put the microchip keys in GMC trucks.   Costs $135 to get a replacement!

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