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« on: July 27, 2010, 07:58:25 PM » |
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I need some feed back about these Century WASR-10s.
Has anyone had a slamfire half way thru a mag,or any other time, for no apparent reason.
I guess this could be a fluke, but I was target practicing Sat., and had a double fire,
one right behind the other, and only two rds. I was using the last of the Brown Bear
bulk I bought. This rifle isn't new either, in the sense that I've put at least 3.5K
rds thru her. I have been neglecting to clean it, not to destroy it, but to put it thru it's paces
so to speak. I've had absoluely no probs with this Ak, other than ammo probs with wolf and Winchester.
One FTF with the wolf, and one projectile got lodged in the barrel with the Winchester.
Other than those two incidents, I 've had nuttin but good fortune with this AK, and cant really find a good
reason for a misfire like this. Any help ya'll may provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks fellas.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 09:23:36 PM » |
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It's possible your firing pin may have temporarly gotten stuck..
Is it free floating, the firing pin..
If too much gunk gets built up, it keeps the firing pin from free floating and they usually get stuck all the way out, causing the round to go off, as soon as the action slam forward...This problem is usually reported more with the SKS, than the ak, though....
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 09:35:18 PM » |
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i second the motion to take the bolt out and shake it/look at it - if that's not it, then let everyone know so more trouble shootin' can begin  |
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7.62 Re[)E^^Pt!oN
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 10:20:35 PM » |
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Yea, it has a free float pin. Its dirty, but not ridiculously so. Not enuff to jam
it I wouldn't think. Possibility though. it moves freely now. I thought at first maybe an
ammo issue, but I've had no probs outta the other 999 rds of Brown Bear.
It just feaked me out for a second when shooting, I was scared to pull the trigger again
for fear of it repeating that. Good thing I was at my private range.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 10:40:39 PM » |
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It may have been a hammer follow incident where the disconnector does not capture the hammer and it goes forward on a subsequent shot and fires the round. You can test for hammer follow in this thread. If it is not happening with any frequency then just an abnormal situation or something else or inadvertant bump fire. Hammer follow check: http://www.nodakspud.com/troubleshooting.htm |
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 01:10:34 PM » |
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If you determine it to be a hammer follow you CAN shave some off the disconnector to make it more reliable. I had to take a bit off my disc on my RPK because of a hammer issue. Also tapco seems to leave their disconnectors rough. Theres normally a line running right through the middle of them. Just smooth that up and see how she runs.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 03:18:44 PM » |
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Could be a couple things as mentioned above.
Another possibility is if conditions are right .... it could have "bump" fired.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 03:29:24 PM » |
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I'm positive I wasn't bump firing.
I shot from kneeling position with slow pulls of the trigger.
I was playing with using the mil-dots on my scope
to figure where I hit at different distances.
I checked the bolt and pin, they are dirty, but not real bad.
I will look more into the disconnector idea, but I've done that test
before, myself, when I bought the AK. Would there be any diff with a double hook
kit possibly. That test looks scary I will say with the bevel on the hammer like that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 03:30:52 PM » |
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I'm positive I wasn't bump firing.
I shot from kneeling position with slow pulls of the trigger.
And that is how it happens. When it happens to me I'm on a bench and just creeping the trigger back. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 04:16:15 PM » |
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I'm no sniper, but I've got pretty good
trigger control. I may have held onto it a bit longer
than other shots, but that thought never really crossed
my mind that I had caused it. Possibility, but I wouldn't
think since I've never had it happen before, that I did it
this time and caused a double shot like that.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 06:14:26 PM » |
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The .223 Norico's were famous for doing this exact same thing.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 06:17:05 PM » |
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It's not a slam fire. You're just holding the trigger in the right spot when doing it slow that the recoil is pushing the trigger again for you. "Bump fire" doesn't have to happen with a shoe string or a "bump stick".
PS Bump firing is very lame especially if you've owned the rifle more than few months.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2010, 06:23:53 PM » |
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It's just a thought. I try to look for something different to throw out there so that you have a complete spectrum of possibilities.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 06:39:40 PM » |
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Thanks guys for all your help. I guess I've never really considered that option.
I have yet to experience that problem with any other rifle i've shot before.
I'll try different techniques. Any other rfiles that this may occur with that I should know about?
Or is this a common prob with the AK or other milsurps?
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 07:19:22 PM » |
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It may have been a hammer follow incident where the disconnector does not capture the hammer and it goes forward on a subsequent shot and fires the round. You can test for hammer follow in this thread. If it is not happening with any frequency then just an abnormal situation or something else or inadvertant bump fire. Hammer follow check: http://www.nodakspud.com/troubleshooting.htmAlready mentioned the bumpfire about 10 posts ago. Listen up maggots.  You just need to function test tper the arttached link and try another range session. |
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